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Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

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Post by elmolino89 »

While this is clearly aimed at personal use, I wonder if it could be extended to serve as a lab notebook for a small research group.

Storing time-stamped, signed Markdown notes with version control and with some hierarchy (daily notes, brainstorm ideas, versioned lab protocols etc.) would be great.

Right now I use on site GitLab & private GitHub repo, but for the not computer savvy users this seems to be too much. Ability to add images to documents using menus/mouse is crucial.

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

#44

Post by Yanu-3452 »

Karunamon wrote: post #18

I've been singing the praises of this app every chance I get.. it's really pretty much perfect. * Free (beer/speech) * Self-hostable, including the sync server, which doubles as a web-accessible version of the app (++mobile access!) * Extensible (want UI elements that do things with your notes? Easy. Want to render graphs based on metadata you've entered? No problem. Your own metadata and tagging scheme? All built in…

My biggest gripe trying it now is the poor keyboard shortcuts in windows.

Hitting ctrl+s is a reflex and while it might not need saving, it's annoying that it redirects focus to the search.

Likewise, F2 doesn't rename, instead tries to do something difference.

If it proves useful anyway I'll try to contribute a keyboard shortcut map to be more consistent with windows or VS, it might be annoying until then however.

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

#45

Post by drcongo »

oonis wrote: post #40

Can anyone compare this to Obsidian that was released into beta recently?

I've tried Trilium in the past, and tried Obsidian this week. I fell in love with Obsidian instantly (even though there are a couple of key things missing [1]). This is entirely subjective, but the UI of Trilium actually gives me anxiety - I want my note-taking, knowledgebase to be a zero-friction thing of calm. Obsidian definitely is, I spent two minutes customising keyboard shortcuts to closer match Sublime Text where I spend most of my day and I was up and running, and in the flow when writing documentation. Trilium is the exact opposite of that. It's information overload. It reminds me of MS Word with all the toolbars open. Some people like that, but if you like a calm, focussed place to write or read documentation or notes, I'd go with Obsidian.

[1] For me Obsidian is currently missing anchor linking to headers within a document (which I know is on the roadmap), and scroll past end of document, as I hate my carat being anchored to the bottom of the screen when writing. Despite those things being missing, I'd paid the personal license within about an hour of trying it and if it turns out to be useful across a team I'll pay the commercial license for it too.

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

#46

Post by camone »

elmolino89 wrote: post #41

While this is clearly aimed at personal use, I wonder if it could be extended to serve as a lab notebook for a small research group. Storing time-stamped, signed Markdown notes with version control and with some hierarchy (daily notes, brainstorm ideas, versioned lab protocols etc.) would be great. Right now I use on site GitLab & private GitHub repo, but for the not computer savvy users this seems to be too much. Ab…

As referenced above [1] multi-user is a non-feature so I wouldn't expect development on that any time soon.

Not sure how good Obsidian [2] is, multi-user support seems to be in dev as well but it might work on a shared drive folder. Also doens't seem to be free/libre.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23347168 [2] https://obsidian.md/

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

#47

Post by marvinblum »

souterrain wrote: post #9

I find that an ability to search the knowledgebase exceeds the value of organizing according to a hierarchy. I can see some value in linking/backlinking à la an encyclopedic "See also" reference for discovering similar information that doesn't share keywords. Are there other disadvantages to an "all search" solution I'm overlooking?

We went for search with Emvi [1]. There are people who like hierarchy, but I think if you don't know what you're looking for you won't find it in a structure anyway. Except everyone on the team or you personally put a lot of thought into it. A hierarchy does not scale well. We tried to make the search as powerful as possible. With filters that can be combined to filter the result set, but I mostly use the textsearch as it is good enough.

Im still thinking about how we could add "explorability". Sometimes you just want to click around a bit and explore what's there without any real goal in mind. Let me know if you have an idea on how the system could support that.

We are rebuilding the UI right now to put an even stronger focus on search. You can read about it here [2] if you like.

[1] https://emvi.com/

[2] https://emvi.com/blog/a-new-experimental-user-interface-QMZg...

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

#48

Post by e_carra »

Yanu-3452 wrote: post #44
Karunamon wrote: post #18

I've been singing the praises of this app every chance I get.. it's really pretty much perfect. * Free (beer/speech) * Self-hostable, including the sync server, which doubles as a web-accessible version of the app (++mobile access!) * Extensible (want UI elements that do things with your notes? Easy. Want to render graphs based on metadata you've entered? No problem. Your own metadata and tagging scheme? All built in…

My biggest gripe trying it now is the poor keyboard shortcuts in windows. Hitting ctrl+s is a reflex and while it might not need saving, it's annoying that it redirects focus to the search. Likewise, F2 doesn't rename, instead tries to do something difference. If it proves useful anyway I'll try to contribute a keyboard shortcut map to be more consistent with windows or VS, it might be annoying until then however.

I think this is done specifically for Emacs users, since we're used to get incremental search once we type C + s.

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

#49

Post by bmikaili »

Karunamon wrote: post #18

I've been singing the praises of this app every chance I get.. it's really pretty much perfect. * Free (beer/speech) * Self-hostable, including the sync server, which doubles as a web-accessible version of the app (++mobile access!) * Extensible (want UI elements that do things with your notes? Easy. Want to render graphs based on metadata you've entered? No problem. Your own metadata and tagging scheme? All built in…

> Truly cross platform

> No mobile

Re: Trilium Notes: Markdown autoformat personal knowledge base

#50

Post by dtgay »

Karunamon wrote: post #18

I've been singing the praises of this app every chance I get.. it's really pretty much perfect. * Free (beer/speech) * Self-hostable, including the sync server, which doubles as a web-accessible version of the app (++mobile access!) * Extensible (want UI elements that do things with your notes? Easy. Want to render graphs based on metadata you've entered? No problem. Your own metadata and tagging scheme? All built in…

I’m probably in the minority, but for a notetaking app to be “pretty much perfect” I absolutely need to be able to easily view and edit notes with vim/nvim, or at least have basic Vim emulation.
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