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Re: Most-streamed track of the day by country

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I think if I look at this any longer I might slip, fall down and break a hip! Embarrassing how old I am when pretty much ALL of these songs sound like absolute trash to me. Repetitive auto-tuned, formulaic, mysoginistic, materialistic, mundane, simple-minded steam pile of fermenting dog poo.

I think the same thing every time I see a top 40 or whatever. Not only do I not know who any or them are, but when I try to listen to a few to see why it's so popular they all sound like the exact same (terrible) song. It's like looking at trending youtube videos, I have no idea who watches that shit.

I think the answer is always the same. Children. They seem to love this low quality stuff and play it on repeat.

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I think if I look at this any longer I might slip, fall down and break a hip! Embarrassing how old I am when pretty much ALL of these songs sound like absolute trash to me. Repetitive auto-tuned, formulaic, mysoginistic, materialistic, mundane, simple-minded steam pile of fermenting dog poo.

You're not old. Or maybe a little. Music on the charts is absolutely getting worse due to globalization, attention span, production, competitive marketing, margins, video/image/brand before song, definitely removal of the 'gatekeepers', lower barriers to entry, mass-market/direct audience. Yes, yes, a lot of pop music has always been crap, but 'this time it's different'. Truly. It's more derivative, fewer chords, lyr…

Maybe the comparison to food is apt: sadly there are alarming rising rates of obesity. And the culprit is most likely cheap, sugary-salty (addictive) industrial food.

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Also, just because it's popular doesn't mean that people actually prefer that lifestyle. It reminds me of the opening scene in Office Space where a white man listens to rap during traffic on his way to a typical 9-to-5.

Its not just the lyrical content though (which is objectionable and sad enough), but everything else as well. Universally auto-tuned and synthesized, short, overly repetitive, mumbling/distorted, and whatever backing track they do have could barely be called musical by any objective standard (i.e. a measure of complexity/interrelated instruments/harmonies/themes/tracks). It doesn't matter whether its an african-ameri…

I knew the hipster-elitists on Hacker News would declare popular music as beneath them.

Re: Most-streamed track of the day by country

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Somewhat saddening to see countries as diverse as Ireland, the UK, Netherlands, South Africa and Australia all promoting American rap over the output of their own people. On the flip side, it's fantastic to see so many countries not doing so.

Why is that saddening? I'm glad to see that American hip hop is as popular as it is in those countries. Makes me even happier when it's an African American hip hop artist.

Just the steamroller of American mass-market pop culture crushing any diversity where it can find a footing.

It's the cultural equivalent of a species making it into a new biome and wiping every species with the same niche.

Americans find it flattering and even positive (because how couldn't be positive it the rest of the world becomes more like yourself ?) but it's really quite dramatic.

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I don't think it's fair to say it's pure populist though. A _huge_ portion of Spotify users don't actively select their music, they just select an autogenerated (or even manually curated) playlist to go in the background. So the most streamed will inevitably be songs from whichever record company has bought algorithmic favour from Spotify.

Do you have sources to back up these claims?

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I think that level of contempt for most of humanity is a bigger problem than what people are complaining about on this thread.

I feel like it takes a different kind of person to be able to go past a top chart or the FTOM artist and discover that there is more to music (or really any other thing) than whatever the rest of a globalized world finds "good".

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I have some spreadsheets* that have every charting hit on the billboard charts. I haven't gone through the general charts that much, but I'd say the ones I have gone through are really surprising. We tend to think we know what the most popular music from the past is, but if you look at the singles that charted the highest throughout modern history you'll find a lot of forgettable crap. *Technically the data is copyri…

I didn't think tabulated data was copyrightable

Facts are not copyrightable, collections of facts are, thats why you cant copy google maps but you can go outside and write down the same data from your own observations. They have to be significant enough to be covered by copyright. A top 40 is maybe copyrighted.

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Nobody with any sense could look at Jazz musician and say they didn't have talent. Just the opposite: most musicians watching Jazz would just be floored at what's going on, that it's even possible. So while they may or may not like it, it's basically impossible not to respect.

You’re ignoring the point. The point is that, at that time, people hated it. Nowadays, you’d be hard pressed to find someone who hates jazz; they’ll recognize it as instrumental, but they won’t like it. The hatred towards modern pop is the same thing. It’s just a fad. In 20 or so years, the younger people who like it will hate the pop of the 2040s or 2050s.

"The hatred towards modern pop is the same thing."

No, this is not true at all.

"People hated Jazz" - agreed.

"People hate pop music now" - agreed.

'Change is generational thing', ok, yes.

But what you're missing is that 2020 pop music doesn't require any skill, at all.

Jazz - to any musical observer - requires an immense amount of skill.

However much anyone 'hated Jazz' - if they understood music in the slightest, they had to respect it. This is a big difference.

The proof is the fact that Jazz is still alive and thriving.

Whatever is on the Hot100 right now will be dead next year and never heard from again.

Edit: I should be more specific - pop music doesn't require a lot of skill, because most acts aren't doing anything, they're generally not even behind their music - the producers are behind it. That said - it's definitely hard to be famous. Being a trend on YouTube is a kind of a skill, it just may not be musical.

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I clicked around a bit and I've not heard any of these songs. I guess I'm out of the loop on what's popular since I stopped watching TV or listening to radio.

All I'm getting now are items curated by my own tastes (and to some degree the whims of spotify), and I'm happier for it. I still discover new bands and keep track of new releases, but it's all within my own favourite genres.

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And they were for the most part correct. The 90's and early 2ks were filled with trash music. The only nice thing compared to the pop lists today is that those bands still actually played instruments. I look back at what I listened to then and maybe a handful of those groups were actually anything good. The rest was appealing to an unrefined 13 year old, which really says a lot about how shitty that music is. I liste…

Extremely serious and wholesome hit from 1960: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yw0bLHTOb0 Edit: by the way, you realise that your grandparents were probably moaning about the music your parents listened to? And their parents ditto, and so on. Nothing new about it.

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