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Re: Most-streamed track of the day by country

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Post by agumonkey »

apengwin wrote: post #15
holografix wrote: post #13

I think if I look at this any longer I might slip, fall down and break a hip! Embarrassing how old I am when pretty much ALL of these songs sound like absolute trash to me. Repetitive auto-tuned, formulaic, mysoginistic, materialistic, mundane, simple-minded steam pile of fermenting dog poo.

that's probably what your parents were saying about the music you listened to when you were young, too.

There's part old subjective rant part truth in this; I've listened to countless hours of any genre of music [0] and this generation fails to appeal to any part of my brain most of the time it's flabbergasting. Every time I hear something that makes me feel 'yeah.. finally' turns out it was some old tune I just didn't know about. There's no feel, no harmonic subtlety, no grit .. I think the pop ethos of music died a few years ago, it doesn't represent something sacred for society, it feels like a commodity.

Re: Most-streamed track of the day by country

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Post by every_time_6m »

tonywastaken wrote: post #24
IMTDb wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's sad because we would expect/hope that the diversity of human cultures would be lead to very different songs being popular in different parts of the world. It's also sad because the three most common word of the song in question ( Dababy - Rockstar ) are: "Yeah" (21 occurences), "Woo" (15 occurences) and "nigga" (13 occurences). The next one in line are "cop", "pull" and "glock" (6 each). This is probably not the…

Just because at the moment there is an American song leading the charts doesn't mean that is always the case. You look at those lyrics on their own and they are just words that don't may not make sense. But if you look at the song as a whole, it's an artist's expression. And it seems to resonate with a lot of people around the world. Criticizing the song contradicts your value for "diversity of human cultures".

Imagine actually defending this. In your previous comment you were very clear how, specifically, hip hop by blacks warms your heart.

Now that the content of this 'music' has been laid bare you need to talk around it and distance yourself from those claims.

Why not denounce it? It's not art, it's filth. It's degenerate propaganda. If any White man dares tell me that having that crap in our nations is 'culturally enriching', well, I'd get banned here for even saying what I want to do to him.

It is disgraceful. I hope you're not White. Regardless, but especially if so, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Re: Most-streamed track of the day by country

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Post by hedora »

derefr wrote: post #17
holografix wrote: post #13

I think if I look at this any longer I might slip, fall down and break a hip! Embarrassing how old I am when pretty much ALL of these songs sound like absolute trash to me. Repetitive auto-tuned, formulaic, mysoginistic, materialistic, mundane, simple-minded steam pile of fermenting dog poo.

Pretty sure you'd say that about songs from whatever decade you grew up in, if those could be sorted by "most listened to" as well. Top40 is already pablum, but it still has some tiny amount of curation (and therefore elitist dictation of taste) driving it. This chart, meanwhile, represents pure populist sentiment—it's "what the people want to hear." And populist sentiment has always been pretty much all of those thi…

From a quick spot check of this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Billboard_number-one...

I’d say the quality of “most listened to” music peaked in the 80’s, with each decade that followed being the worst ever.

Most of my favorite artists are from the 90’s-2010’s, with a few exceptions scattered in the 40’s, 70’s and 80’s.

It could be that music got more diverse in the 90’s, and the billboard chart stopped being broadly relevant.

Re: Most-streamed track of the day by country

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Post by mrslave »

holografix wrote: post #13

I think if I look at this any longer I might slip, fall down and break a hip! Embarrassing how old I am when pretty much ALL of these songs sound like absolute trash to me. Repetitive auto-tuned, formulaic, mysoginistic, materialistic, mundane, simple-minded steam pile of fermenting dog poo.

I agree completely, but to my mind this is more a validation that there is a lot more money to be made with things that scale. With respect to taste and quality, it is unfortunate that this means lowest common denominator mass market trash. The race to the top is a race to the bottom.

Re: Most-streamed track of the day by country

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Post by alexilliamson »

tzs wrote: post #59
holografix wrote: post #13

I think if I look at this any longer I might slip, fall down and break a hip! Embarrassing how old I am when pretty much ALL of these songs sound like absolute trash to me. Repetitive auto-tuned, formulaic, mysoginistic, materialistic, mundane, simple-minded steam pile of fermenting dog poo.

Generally isn't older music more misogynistic?

Maybe in spirit, but it's very explicit now

Re: Most-streamed track of the day by country

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Post by jariel »

holografix wrote: post #13

I think if I look at this any longer I might slip, fall down and break a hip! Embarrassing how old I am when pretty much ALL of these songs sound like absolute trash to me. Repetitive auto-tuned, formulaic, mysoginistic, materialistic, mundane, simple-minded steam pile of fermenting dog poo.

You're not old. Or maybe a little.

Music on the charts is absolutely getting worse due to globalization, attention span, production, competitive marketing, margins, video/image/brand before song, definitely removal of the 'gatekeepers', lower barriers to entry, mass-market/direct audience.

Yes, yes, a lot of pop music has always been crap, but 'this time it's different'. Truly. It's more derivative, fewer chords, lyrics that don't make sense or inspire, overproduced, repetitive.

'Popular Music' is dead - it's just memes.

Think of these artists as just people 'wanting to be famous' and doing image, memes, publicity, fake celeb fights, TV show appearances - it's all the same thing. Some of it might have a song.

You know the 'processed food magicians' who manipulate ingredients to find the 'sweet spot' of sweetness/bitterness whatever ... that drives a lot of food to taste bland? Same thing. You have mega producers behind most artists' hits. The artist is a brand, the label does the marketing. That's it.

There is quite a bit of good stuff but it just doesn't get much publicity.

Also - one big difference - most 'good music' today is not very 'up' or 'hit' oriented.

Think of Van Halen 'Jump' - big, loud, stadium 'rock' sound, but also very accessible. Huge energy. Alpha chords! Most good music these days is much more subtle, it doesn't 'grab you' - which is totally fine, but it means maybe it's not as radio playable.

There's a lot of really interesting and weird artifacts of pop culture music, but most of it is totally unlistenable.

Tons of kids these days don't listen to Hot 100 either.

Re: Most-streamed track of the day by country

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Post by jariel »

derefr wrote: post #17
holografix wrote: post #13

I think if I look at this any longer I might slip, fall down and break a hip! Embarrassing how old I am when pretty much ALL of these songs sound like absolute trash to me. Repetitive auto-tuned, formulaic, mysoginistic, materialistic, mundane, simple-minded steam pile of fermenting dog poo.

Pretty sure you'd say that about songs from whatever decade you grew up in, if those could be sorted by "most listened to" as well. Top40 is already pablum, but it still has some tiny amount of curation (and therefore elitist dictation of taste) driving it. This chart, meanwhile, represents pure populist sentiment—it's "what the people want to hear." And populist sentiment has always been pretty much all of those thi…

Yes but:

1) Chart toppers from previous eras are still listenable. Almost nothing on the charts today will be listenable in 2 years. Out-of-touch grandparents in the 1960s could have been convinced to listen to the Beatles. Nobody of a certain age will put up with Top 40 today.

2) It's not quite as democratic as you'd imagine. There are promotions, placements, trends, people sucking kids into clicks in big herds.

A major issue is that today music is more global, and there is a much wider, much lower common denominator.

It used to be 200M Americans, now it's 4B global listeners, Americans are a tiny fraction of that.

Re: Most-streamed track of the day by country

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Post by jariel »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #48
alejogutierrez wrote: post #45

Agree with many comments. If music were the way to describe society everything went to the hell. The problem is not only the computers usage in the music, is that in terms of composition, lyrics, emotions, everything sucks. Any of these songs are crap that someone with the most basic knowledge on a DAW could make. "Roses" which is the less shity song sounds like a crap version of "Moonlight" from Gaullin. It would be…

I’m reminded of when Jazz became a thing and practically everywhere said “it’s not classical, it has no soul, etc. and therefore sucks”. It’s pop music because... well... it’s popular . You may not like it, but a lot of people do. There’s nothing wrong with that. Adam Neely had a really good video showcasing newspapers and editorials denouncing the Jazz genre when it appeared. It seems to have been taken down, unfort…

Nobody with any sense could look at Jazz musician and say they didn't have talent. Just the opposite: most musicians watching Jazz would just be floored at what's going on, that it's even possible. So while they may or may not like it, it's basically impossible not to respect.
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