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Pulling apart a £339 anti-5G USB stick

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Re: Pulling apart a £339 anti-5G USB stick

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If you think this is just bunk, and you'd like a laugh, read the FAQs on the website [1]... My favourite: >Does the device remove the EMF from the environment? If so can I use a meter to measure EMF? >>The 'electro magnetic meter' can only measure the intensity of radiation which is not changed by our technology nor does it change the quality of connection and speed of data transfer. Well, that's convenient, isn't it…

> It sounds like the kind of thing that Russell Brand was wittering about a couple of years ago - that your senses are the only way to interface with reality, and if you can't sense it it's not there,

Can you post a source for this? I listened to a few bits of Brand over the years, and on this subject he'd say that there's a lot more reality out there, but humans are simply unaware of it due to our limited human senses. Nothing non obvious or controversial.

Re: Pulling apart a £339 anti-5G USB stick

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> Do people actually believe this nonsense? It sounds like the kind of thing that Russell Brand was wittering about a couple of years ago Probably. My mum was a New-Age type, so I grew up with homeopathic pills explicitly labelled as “sodium chloride”, “silicon dioxide”, and “titanium dioxide”, while being told my brother and I were “typical” for our astrological star signs. She was big on dowsing with wands and pend…

Sorry to hear about your mum getting Alzheimer's and not getting proper treatment. While everything else (crystals etc) is bull I'd like to point out to readers that chakras have some utility. When meditating they are good positions to focus on and can make it easier to drop your thoughts. Also if you pay attention to your emotions in your body they often occur at these points. I assume they were derived from this in…

Ooo, slight misunderstanding: since she got a diagnosis, the rest of us have been making sure she gets proper treatment.

I was just trying to illustrate how convinced she was by her magic potions.

And sure, I’ll agree any focus for meditation is cool regardless of what it is, but she thought it was a bit more than that.

Re: Pulling apart a £339 anti-5G USB stick

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post #37

Two things come to my mind: - this is basically an ignorance tax - sometimes I wish I had no conscience, I would be much richer

If you've never heard about the Gopher, read on: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29459896 Also here is a hilarious recount of the same story in Italian, you might have success with automated translation: https://bagniproeliator.it/cerca-una-pallina-da-golf-trova-r...

«È un’invenzione supersegreta di un mio amico, ex direttore della NASA. Intercetta le vibracole moleizzate dell’atmosfera catafrastica protocollo Trider G7 tu del cosmo imbattibile eroe.»

I'm literally^Wfiguratively rolling on the floor laughing!

Re: Pulling apart a £339 anti-5G USB stick

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>your senses are the only way to interface with reality This is technically true. >and if you can't sense it it's not there This is where it gets crazy. What I find interesting about this is that you never actually have direct access to your senses. For example things in the corners of your vision are fabricated by your mind based on assumptions. See optical illusions. So anyone suggesting that things outside of your…

For sure these people are quacks, but if you're curious to take the next turn down the rabbit hole, let me seed you. Even the concept of senses and reality are concepts in your mind and consequences of the model you have accepted as reality. So the problem recurses on itself, too. Can you directly experience your mind? Is the feeling of your mind delivered to you through a sense you haven't realized is a sense yet? C…

You are over-complicating this. People are not infinitely deep; they have strange loops which make one level of depth look like many levels. Consciousness is a hallucination.

Re: Pulling apart a £339 anti-5G USB stick

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post #102

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Sorry to hear about your mum getting Alzheimer's and not getting proper treatment. While everything else (crystals etc) is bull I'd like to point out to readers that chakras have some utility. When meditating they are good positions to focus on and can make it easier to drop your thoughts. Also if you pay attention to your emotions in your body they often occur at these points. I assume they were derived from this in…

Ooo, slight misunderstanding: since she got a diagnosis, the rest of us have been making sure she gets proper treatment. I was just trying to illustrate how convinced she was by her magic potions. And sure, I’ll agree any focus for meditation is cool regardless of what it is, but she thought it was a bit more than that.

Ohh sorry, glad to hear she is getting proper treatment.

I understand what you were getting at just thought I'd give my 2c about chakras because I thought some people would bundle them in with healing crystals when they can be separated out as tools for meditation.

Re: Pulling apart a £339 anti-5G USB stick

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What an absolute lack of surprise that the person with one of these is from Glastonbury

What's so special about Glastonbury?

Glastonbury is a town with a long history, some ancient myths concerning its historic monuments and a very famous music festival which make it attractive to various types of New Age spiritualists and retired hippies.

The UK has plenty of councillors with very unusual views, but Glastonbury is where most satirists would locate a councillor who believed in magic anti-5G fields [just like they'd locate the retired major colonel who's disgruntled about parking issues or lack of respect for royalty in Tunbridge Wells]

Re: Pulling apart a £339 anti-5G USB stick

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Table salt, sand, and food-grade white pigment respectively. Also: Sorry you went through that decline at the end. :'(

> table salt, sand, and food-grade white pigment But it's often not in dangerous quantities, because homeopathy believes that the less of something is present somewhere it works better, and it's called "dynamization" or "potentization" by the producers, diluting the material sometimes to the point that in thousands of sold pills, counted together, there can't be more than one single molecule! The process then practic…

> homeopathy believes that the less of something is present somewhere it works better, and it's called "dynamization" or "potentization" by the producers, diluting the material

Did you hear about the homeopath that died of an overdose? He forgot to take his pills.

Re: Pulling apart a £339 anti-5G USB stick

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post #37

Two things come to my mind: - this is basically an ignorance tax - sometimes I wish I had no conscience, I would be much richer

If you've never heard about the Gopher, read on: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29459896 Also here is a hilarious recount of the same story in Italian, you might have success with automated translation: https://bagniproeliator.it/cerca-una-pallina-da-golf-trova-r...

I hadn't heard of it, also I happen to be Italian so that's perfect, thanks!

Re: Pulling apart a £339 anti-5G USB stick

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post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For sure these people are quacks, but if you're curious to take the next turn down the rabbit hole, let me seed you. Even the concept of senses and reality are concepts in your mind and consequences of the model you have accepted as reality. So the problem recurses on itself, too. Can you directly experience your mind? Is the feeling of your mind delivered to you through a sense you haven't realized is a sense yet? C…

You are over-complicating this. People are not infinitely deep; they have strange loops which make one level of depth look like many levels. Consciousness is a hallucination.

..and Haskell lists cannot be infinitely long?

So, take a second. We don't understand fully how the brain's memory system works. There are some people who have an extreme ability to recall autobiographical details about literally every single day they ever lived. What the weather was like, what clothes they wore, who they talked to, things that happened. That's far beyond most people. But that establishes that clearly the brain has both the capacity and wiring to this at some level, and it can actually be turned on. We only need to be open to the idea that perhaps all brains do this at some level, recording our whole experience at some level of fidelity, below our conscious mind. I say, "at some level of fidelity" because we don't really know how detailed our memories really are. If it was just a heartbeat counter, it would only take 33 bits (!); if it was a transcript of the words we spoke, it would fit in less than 100mb. Of course it is probably not a full dump of any kind, but a patchwork of cross-referenced, reinforced, compressed, maybe slightly damaged things. Sometimes just emotions. It really doesn't matter what format it is, because the following will always be true.

At some point in your life, there will come a "midpoint" where more you have already experienced more before that point than you will afterwards.

Before the midpoint, there are still more events in your future than in your past, so you are fundamentally not capable of imagining all the future events--not only their nature, but the weight of their existence. The fidelity of your memories really doesn't matter here; you cannot fully appreciate 20 years of experience when you have lived only 10.

After the midpoint, one of two things is true:

Either,

1. We cannot remember all of the details about our lives. We have a radically simplified and compressed form which pales in comparison to the real moment-to-moment experience (i.e. low resolution). 2. We can remember all of the details about our lives (i.e. high resolution), but we don't have enough time left to replay them all in full quality.

Either way, our past life, in its full glory, is beyond our capacity to imagine.

So that means before the midpoint and after the midpoint it is subjectively infinite; there is always more, even in our own experiences, than we can experience or re-experience.

And that's just our own minds! If we aren't completely solipistic and believe all the rest of this vastly complicated world really does exist, then its doubly infinite, because every time we learn something new about how it works, we have to reimagine and reinterpret the complexities of the past with the new information. Like learning about people. Sometimes you seem them do things that make no sense; only when you get to know them later do you understand why they might have done that, and what they might have been thinking. Or looking at an old photograph you see someone you didn't know then but know now, and the past is even more detailed and rich than what you knew.

So I don't know who told you that consciousness is a hallucination, and that it must be meaningless and trite. Maybe they just lived a boring life, because TBH you're missing a hell of a good show as this whole thing unfolds.

Try LSD sometime.

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