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Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

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Post by dudul »

davedx wrote: post #7

Seems like this article ignores the gigantic wave of out-sourcing throughout IT that already happened in previous decades and in many cases returned to near-shore / onsite work. What you actually see if you look at remote work job boards is many (if not most) companies in say, the USA, want remote people from the USA (or at least the same timezone as the USA). I think this is what will happen in other countries too.

Agreed. Sometimes, when reading articles/comments about out-sourcing, I question my own sanity. We've done it before, am I the only one remembering it? It failed miserably.

If companies want to relocate work to India, or China, or Eastern Europe, they can already do it.

Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

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Post by tough »

vs2 wrote: post #16

I am not paying to read someones blog! This is the second day in a row ... if this was reddit the admins would ban it! Oh yeah I am off to reddit!

Just open an incognito tab then, or if you use firefox checkout this extension https://addons.mozilla.org/es/firefox/addon/medium-unlimited...

I hate medium too, anyway for my the paywall is like a nice feature, if it's behind it I'm probably better off not reading that shit anyways

Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

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Post by mekoka »

Side question. I have noticed for a few weeks now that since I don't have a Medium account I'm prevented from reading certain articles (like this one), but I still have access to some other articles on the platform. Does it mean that some authors require that the readership be part of the network too? What are the rules?

Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

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Post by klmadfejno »

sgift wrote: post #8
klmadfejno wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You require more wages than someone in a cheaper country (assuming some western area). It balances out, but you're at risk.

The same was said about offshoring and so far it worked out.

I mean, it worked out for one side of that equation

Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

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Post by mc32 »

davedx wrote: post #7

Seems like this article ignores the gigantic wave of out-sourcing throughout IT that already happened in previous decades and in many cases returned to near-shore / onsite work. What you actually see if you look at remote work job boards is many (if not most) companies in say, the USA, want remote people from the USA (or at least the same timezone as the USA). I think this is what will happen in other countries too.

In the first wave of outsourcing, companies saw that the contract organization provided more or less equivalent results at substantially reduced cost.

What they failed to realize is what they outsourced were their bottom tier workers, the unproductive people. They got excited by the reduced cost with minimal reduction in effectiveness.

When they try to outsource their better talent that’s where they failed to recognize good talent is costly everywhere. You might save some salary but it’s offset by lots of other things from time shift to organizational culture.

Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

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Post by bamboozled »

As someone who has worked remotely and worked for remote teams for some time now, I can say that you need hire a higher caliber people with excellent communication skills who you can really trust to deliver.

I think remote work will just make sure good people are in higher demand, which means that the market may even get hotter for better people.

Companies who just complete on price will fail spectacularly.

Bring it on.

Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

beager wrote: post #19

The implication from this litter of thinkpieces on HN is that proximity to a tech hub (SV/NY) is your only competitive advantage as a knowledge worker—your butt is close to their chair. This runs counter to the other prevailing wisdom about SV/NY, which is that those areas are hubs—and essential to the tech industry—because the world's top talent is drawn to it. So which is it?

The same set of people aren't saying both things. The people who believe SV and NY have top talent are exactly the ones who think remote work is great. I'm excited about the trend; a bigger pool of talented engineers for me to work with means I'll be able to accomplish more and have to compromise less on my career goals.

The people who worry that remote work will be a disaster are the ones who never believed SV engineers were more talented in the first place.

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