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Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You require more wages than someone in a cheaper country (assuming some western area). It balances out, but you're at risk.

The same was said about offshoring and so far it worked out.

Tell that to 80s coal miners and factory workers.

Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

#22

There's some serious irony that traditionally globalist brogrammer types are now whining about outsourcing (to "poorer" areas, or other countries). You guys didn't care when it was happened to blue collar workers, and then go and rag on Trump voters who didn't see any other way out. Then there's the other faction that doesn't understand basic economics and expects Bay Area pay from Bangladesh so they can live like a…

Would be curious for you to expand on what you mean by "traditionally globalist brogrammer types."

Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

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It also means i can take someone else's job. It balances out.

You drive a car, I use a bus.

You eat meat, I eat potatoes.

You fly to Disneyworld, I take the train to the seaside.

You live in a big house, I live in a small apartment.

You pay American income taxes, I don't.

You demand clean air and water, I tolerate pollution.

There are some fundamental factors which make labour in other parts of the world much cheaper, and people willing to accept a much lower quality of life and associated lower incomes.

Its no wonder that big tech is so in favour of remote working - its going to allow the outsourcing of a huge amount of work (white collar) previously considered untouchable.

Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

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The article makes broad, sweeping generalizations, but it was enjoyable and engaging to read, so cheers to the author for that. He's right, too, generally speaking: lots of work can and will be done remotely from various locations across the globe. Of course, there will always be natural divides (that's what makes us human). Someone who can't speak the same language as the rest of the team just isn't going to get hired, no matter how well they can code.

Government regulations also play a huge role in how "globalized" a job can be. If you're working at a defense contractor, for example, you sure as heck aren't going to be replaced by a foreign national. In many cases, the office culture at those companies won't change hardly at all, due to data governance restrictions.

Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

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post #12

It also means i can take someone else's job. It balances out.

More competition leads to lower wages.

Lower wages for SV but higher wages everywhere else.

The average developer wage for SV is $100,000 higher than the average where I live.

Re: Remote work means anyone can take your job

#30

It also means i can take someone else's job. It balances out.

Agreed. Just keep investing in yourself, your network, and growing and you'll be fine. That's my hypothesis anyway. I am not the best at what I do but I am getting better everyday and I keep in touch with people doing really cool things at the biggest places in case I want to join them in doing something neat. My network came through for me when I was suddenly let go due to this pandemic and so I am giving back by helping out those coming up behind me as best I can but also investing in myself by upskilling.
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