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8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Post by MayeulC »

sylvain_kerkour wrote: post #3

Wow, this is such a great news! This plus the pinebook pro, I really hope that it will help the software availability on armv8 to skyrocket! Also I really hope that someone will come with a new case to use it as tablet and laptop. Like a mix between the old pi-top and a surface book (or a PineTab). If anyone has experience developing on the raspberry pi 4 (4GB), I really want to hear from you, especially regarding th…

It sounds like pine64 devices are miles ahead in terms of upstream kernel support, though. The remaining issue was with GPU support, but that's being taken care of with the Lima/Panfrost project, which now runs great.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Post by FullyFunctional »

sylvain_kerkour wrote: post #3

Wow, this is such a great news! This plus the pinebook pro, I really hope that it will help the software availability on armv8 to skyrocket! Also I really hope that someone will come with a new case to use it as tablet and laptop. Like a mix between the old pi-top and a surface book (or a PineTab). If anyone has experience developing on the raspberry pi 4 (4GB), I really want to hear from you, especially regarding th…

I spent a few months doing much of my development on the 4 GiB Raspberry Pi 4 (gently overclocked). My experience was that of a slightly older notebook - totally fine for most things. The 4 GiB memory was hardly ever an issue, but the pathetic IO (storage and to some degree network) eventually drove me away. Thus, 8 GiB is a great option, but it makes it seem even less balanced now.

EDIT: I haste to add that having the full 64-bit Ubuntu 20.04 was what made this interesting to me.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Post by jcun4128 »

rasz wrote: post #8

Before anyone goes "OMG I could use it as a desktop" $75 is close to what you would pay for couple year old ~4 faster laptop with broken screen, sodimm and PCIE SSD slots. Quick ebay check shows things like $90 'Dell XPS12 i7-3537U 8gb 128GB SSD broken screen'

I do agree with that thought, as I personally use these Dell Optiplex i7 3rd gen, 32gb desktops, I'm not a mega gamer but I can throw in a 4GB 1050ti and play some recent games at medium quality. It's definitely not $75 more like $500 altogether but still... what I do like about this is it seems like a less interesting thing to steal if you're concerned about that.

Generally though it is like a "full computer" so I don't know what I would buy one of these for, I currently have 3 Pis that have been on for a few years now continuously they're running web servers/automated tasks mostly Pi Zeros and a 3B+.

I think it's crazy 8GB is becoming like the new 4GB... 32GB is almost not enough personally.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Post by onemoresoop »

rasz wrote: post #8

Before anyone goes "OMG I could use it as a desktop" $75 is close to what you would pay for couple year old ~4 faster laptop with broken screen, sodimm and PCIE SSD slots. Quick ebay check shows things like $90 'Dell XPS12 i7-3537U 8gb 128GB SSD broken screen'

True, but in what form factor? A RPi is small. And it has GPIo, it could be applied to a portable project unlike a clunky laptop..

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Post by sylvain_kerkour »

FullyFunctional wrote: post #12
sylvain_kerkour wrote: post #3

Wow, this is such a great news! This plus the pinebook pro, I really hope that it will help the software availability on armv8 to skyrocket! Also I really hope that someone will come with a new case to use it as tablet and laptop. Like a mix between the old pi-top and a surface book (or a PineTab). If anyone has experience developing on the raspberry pi 4 (4GB), I really want to hear from you, especially regarding th…

I spent a few months doing much of my development on the 4 GiB Raspberry Pi 4 (gently overclocked). My experience was that of a slightly older notebook - totally fine for most things. The 4 GiB memory was hardly ever an issue, but the pathetic IO (storage and to some degree network) eventually drove me away. Thus, 8 GiB is a great option, but it makes it seem even less balanced now. EDIT: I haste to add that having t…

Thank you!

Talking about the IO, did you experience failure (lose of work) due to the unreliability of microSD?

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Post by jakogut »

sylvain_kerkour wrote: post #3

Wow, this is such a great news! This plus the pinebook pro, I really hope that it will help the software availability on armv8 to skyrocket! Also I really hope that someone will come with a new case to use it as tablet and laptop. Like a mix between the old pi-top and a surface book (or a PineTab). If anyone has experience developing on the raspberry pi 4 (4GB), I really want to hear from you, especially regarding th…

> If anyone has development experience using the raspberry pi 4 (4GB), I really want to hear from you, especially regarding the processor performance

I've been developing on the platform for a few months now. Though it's difficult to compare performance between architectures, the new BCM2711 compares favorably in CPU bound tasks to Intel's Cherry Trail Atoms from early 2016, primarily the Atom x5-z8350.

The Pi 4 also overclocks easily from 1.5 GHz to 2.0 - 2.1 GHz, where it exceeds Atom performance in some cases. The A72 cores are a huge leap in performance compared to the A53 cores of the RPi 3. These are architecturally "big" cores, as compared to the more power efficient and lower throughput "little" A53 cores of the previous model.

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Post by sylvain_kerkour »

MayeulC wrote: post #11
sylvain_kerkour wrote: post #3

Wow, this is such a great news! This plus the pinebook pro, I really hope that it will help the software availability on armv8 to skyrocket! Also I really hope that someone will come with a new case to use it as tablet and laptop. Like a mix between the old pi-top and a surface book (or a PineTab). If anyone has experience developing on the raspberry pi 4 (4GB), I really want to hear from you, especially regarding th…

It sounds like pine64 devices are miles ahead in terms of upstream kernel support, though. The remaining issue was with GPU support, but that's being taken care of with the Lima/Panfrost project, which now runs great.

Unfortunately, their low specs make them really far from usable.

I know that it may improve in the future, but as of today, 2GB of Ram for the PineTab...

Re: 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75

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Post by rewoi »

rasz wrote: post #8

Before anyone goes "OMG I could use it as a desktop" $75 is close to what you would pay for couple year old ~4 faster laptop with broken screen, sodimm and PCIE SSD slots. Quick ebay check shows things like $90 'Dell XPS12 i7-3537U 8gb 128GB SSD broken screen'

What is the size and power consumption? Can it handle 4k TV?

Also I would much rather do technical support for Pi, than some old junk in questionable state of disrepair.

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