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Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel

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Buried in the replies is a comparison with iOS’s on device speech recognition enabled, which paints a somewhat (though not entirely) different story: https://twitter.com/BenLumenDigital/status/12657182691908321...

Apple is still behind on accuracy either using on device or server connection.

Yes, though keep in mind that Twitter/Hacker News power users are often very privacy conscious. I think people are happy about offline mode regardless of how relatively fast or accurate it is.

Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel

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post #41

For me it seems like Google voice typing is getting worse and worse. It capitalizes random Words in a sentence Like this. It specifically ignores the word "o'clock".

Google pixel 3a, reading your comment: "for me it seems like Google voice typing is getting worse and worse. It capitalizes random words in a sentence like this. It's specifically ignores the word o clock."

See! I don't know who at Google has this personal vendetta but it has to be on purpose. You say "We start at three o'clock" and it just types "We start at 3" when what you want it to type is "We start at 3:00". You can sit there saying "one o'clock, two o'clock, three o'clock, four o'clock" and it just types out "1234". It knows the word I'm using but ignores it on purpose.

It's a real issue for me as "4:00" has three significant digits, it's specific, whereas "4" might mean anything between 3:50 and 4:10.

Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My iPhone transcribes voicemails so slowly that most times it's faster and easier to just listen to it.

That describes perfectly most interactions with Siri Is it worth the hassle to try and stand a reasonable chance of failure, and then also have to do it manually, or should I just skip to the chase and do it myself. Unless I’m setting a timer, probably just do it myself.

I enabled Type-to-Siri in accessibility, mostly for asking what song is playing.

You can still Hey Siri for voice.

Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel

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post #83

The Pixels get a lot of hate from people who haven't used them though I think they are great phones and I'll never buy a Samsung phone again. There are so many nice software touches on them that you just have to experience to appreciate.

This is not specific to a phone model. It works reasonably well on the venerable Nexus line of phones too. Any android device that uses gboard. I still won't actually use it for anything, but it works within a limited vocabulary. It's still not what I would call generally useful, although I'm sure it is very helpful for those with disabilities.

Can I try this in an older Android tablet? I thought it was a TF-lite thing under the hood.

Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel

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Some hackers have been trying to reuse Google's offline speech recognition models within other software toolkits, https://hackaday.io/project/164399-android-offline-speech-re... > Especially the offline part is very appealing to me, as it should to any privacy conscious mind. Unfortunately this speech recognizer is only available to Pixel owners at this time. Since GBoard uses TensorFlow Lite, and the blog post is al…

Laptops urgently need to have a hardware switch for the microphone. A mobile phone should have one too - but that will never happen. At least the laptop is large enough that one little switch is not a problem (unless you are Apple and even essential peripherals are a problem).

Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel

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Some hackers have been trying to reuse Google's offline speech recognition models within other software toolkits, https://hackaday.io/project/164399-android-offline-speech-re... > Especially the offline part is very appealing to me, as it should to any privacy conscious mind. Unfortunately this speech recognizer is only available to Pixel owners at this time. Since GBoard uses TensorFlow Lite, and the blog post is al…

Laptops urgently need to have a hardware switch for the microphone. A mobile phone should have one too - but that will never happen. At least the laptop is large enough that one little switch is not a problem (unless you are Apple and even essential peripherals are a problem).

Pinephone and Librem 5 have these afaik.

Purism laptops do as well, I believe.

Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel

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Some hackers have been trying to reuse Google's offline speech recognition models within other software toolkits, https://hackaday.io/project/164399-android-offline-speech-re... > Especially the offline part is very appealing to me, as it should to any privacy conscious mind. Unfortunately this speech recognizer is only available to Pixel owners at this time. Since GBoard uses TensorFlow Lite, and the blog post is al…

Laptops urgently need to have a hardware switch for the microphone. A mobile phone should have one too - but that will never happen. At least the laptop is large enough that one little switch is not a problem (unless you are Apple and even essential peripherals are a problem).

>Apple has brought its hardware microphone disconnect security feature to its latest iPads.

The microphone disconnect security feature aims to make it far more difficult for hackers to use malware or a malicious app to eavesdrop on a device’s surroundings.

The feature was first introduced to Macs by way of Apple’s T2 security chip last year. The security chip ensured that the microphone was physically disconnected from the device when the user shuts their MacBook lid.

https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/03/apple-hardware-microphone-...

Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is still behind on accuracy either using on device or server connection.

Yes, though keep in mind that Twitter/Hacker News power users are often very privacy conscious. I think people are happy about offline mode regardless of how relatively fast or accurate it is.

How "offline" is the offline mode?

Will it contact servers to sends statistics and samples when back online?

Re: Speech to Text on iPhone vs. Pixel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Laptops urgently need to have a hardware switch for the microphone. A mobile phone should have one too - but that will never happen. At least the laptop is large enough that one little switch is not a problem (unless you are Apple and even essential peripherals are a problem).

>Apple has brought its hardware microphone disconnect security feature to its latest iPads. The microphone disconnect security feature aims to make it far more difficult for hackers to use malware or a malicious app to eavesdrop on a device’s surroundings. The feature was first introduced to Macs by way of Apple’s T2 security chip last year. The security chip ensured that the microphone was physically disconnected fr…

As someone who uses his laptop in clamshell mode most of the time, this was an anti-feature for me.

Having to literally lift the lid and MacOS readjusting the display every time I want to have a meeting was frustrating. It got to the point where I just bought a cheap USB microphone just to be done with it.

I support having a hardware switch for it so that I can have the choice.

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