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Re: Reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2

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Finally. What was obvious from the Diamond Princess data months ago has been acknowledged.

Can you be more specific on what you think was going unacknowledged? The abstract is just "wear masks and test like crazy". Which has been pretty much universal consensus since March. There's a whole industry of amateur mask makers on Etsy at this point.

Re: Reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2

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Finally. What was obvious from the Diamond Princess data months ago has been acknowledged.

Can you be more specific on what you think was going unacknowledged? The abstract is just "wear masks and test like crazy". Which has been pretty much universal consensus since March. There's a whole industry of amateur mask makers on Etsy at this point.

Except that everyone stopped wearing masks about two weeks ago.

Re: Reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2

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Finally. What was obvious from the Diamond Princess data months ago has been acknowledged.

Can you be more specific on what you think was going unacknowledged? The abstract is just "wear masks and test like crazy". Which has been pretty much universal consensus since March. There's a whole industry of amateur mask makers on Etsy at this point.

Until recently wearing masks Was not a CDC guideline

Re: Reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you be more specific on what you think was going unacknowledged? The abstract is just "wear masks and test like crazy". Which has been pretty much universal consensus since March. There's a whole industry of amateur mask makers on Etsy at this point.

Until recently wearing masks Was not a CDC guideline

No one at the CDC (at least no career bureaucrat) ever denied masks were effective, though. It's true that there was concern early on that a public run on masks would put health care workers in jeopardy, so people were absolutely told not to try to procure them. And it's also true that the WHO's messaging on this subject was terribly confusing.

But the idea that "Hah! The elites were WRONG about masks!" is just... weird. And doubly so because it's almost always promulgated by a demographic known for... not wearing masks.

I mean, seriously: if ("finally!") we're being told to wear masks, I'd expect a genuine mask evangelist to be happy, and to use this to encourage others to wear their masks. But that's not what I hear. It's like it's all a game of political gotcha.

It's not. Masks save lives. Wear your mask when you can't stay home.

Re: Reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you be more specific on what you think was going unacknowledged? The abstract is just "wear masks and test like crazy". Which has been pretty much universal consensus since March. There's a whole industry of amateur mask makers on Etsy at this point.

Except that everyone stopped wearing masks about two weeks ago.

For certain narrow classes of everyone.

Re: Reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until recently wearing masks Was not a CDC guideline

No one at the CDC (at least no career bureaucrat) ever denied masks were effective, though. It's true that there was concern early on that a public run on masks would put health care workers in jeopardy, so people were absolutely told not to try to procure them. And it's also true that the WHO's messaging on this subject was terribly confusing. But the idea that "Hah! The elites were WRONG about masks!" is just... we…

The "career bureaucrats" had every opportunity to make sure people didn't die, and they failed. You can really just go through the list of wrong information offered at precisely the worst time: subways, nursing homes, masks, the relative safety of being outdoors, etc.

Re: Reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until recently wearing masks Was not a CDC guideline

No one at the CDC (at least no career bureaucrat) ever denied masks were effective, though. It's true that there was concern early on that a public run on masks would put health care workers in jeopardy, so people were absolutely told not to try to procure them. And it's also true that the WHO's messaging on this subject was terribly confusing. But the idea that "Hah! The elites were WRONG about masks!" is just... we…

I’m based in Tokyo and one of the most frustrating things for me personally is that ~90% of foreigners (or people who are visibly foreigners) are not wearing masks when out and about. This despite the fact that the Japanese are almost uniformly wearing them. We are, after all, in the middle of a pandemic.

Is this down to the WHO’s early messaging fumbles, misplaced machismo, ignorance, or what? When foreigners here don’t wear masks, they should know that the door is then open for Japanese people to lump all of us in together and say: “look, foreigners don’t give a fuck.”

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