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SpaceX NASA returning human spaceflight to United States today (canceled)

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Re: SpaceX NASA returning human spaceflight to United States today (canceled)

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> Demo-2 is the final major test for SpaceX’s human spaceflight system to be certified by NASA for operational crew missions to and from the International Space Station. The two astronauts along with the Falcon 9 will be docking with the ISS and then returning home. No crew swap is happening, which seems like a waste of energy. I get that SpaceX isn't "operationally certified", but is a crew swap inherently more risk…

> The two astronauts along with the Falcon 9 will be docking with the ISS and then returning home

Just to be clear, the Falcon 9 is the booster that never gets to orbit. It's not going to the ISS- not moving fast enough to achieve orbit. Just the little Dragon spaceship on the nose of the rocket will get to the ISS.

> No crew swap is happening, which seems like a waste of energy. I get that SpaceX isn't "operationally certified", but is a crew swap inherently more risky?

Believe it or not, they've sent this 7-seat spacecraft to the ISS already (well, the same model) just to verify it could do it. It arrived empty, it went home empty (except for a plushy that stayed behind). The point is that SpaceX is going to be doing this maybe hundreds of times in the future, but the first time, they want to minimize the number of people that could die if something goes wrong.

Remember, this whole test would have been done 6 months ago except that the sister to this spaceship unexpected exploded during a simple ground test. This stuff is dangerous.

Re: SpaceX NASA returning human spaceflight to United States today (canceled)

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Could you please elaborate more on why it is completely incorrect? I think the opposite from what I've seen. Touch screens in a space capsule cockpit with UI and fonts that appear to be more of a pizzaz than functional. I think that SpaceX has leaned too much towards decoration while presumably sacrificing a tremendous amount of functional aspects. I don't know for sure because I've not operated those systems but I'v…

Sure, I'll expand. We both have limited information. I assume that the professionals at SpaceX and NASA have prioritized safety and usability, while also introducing a sci-fi vibe. This is a reasonable position. You, however, take a conspiracy theory (the literal definition) angle that SpaceX have reduced the safety and usability of their module in order to look cooler. Do you see why this is not a reasonable positio…

Thing is, at a minimum the "vibe" increases the cost, but financial constraints aren't going away, so...

Re: SpaceX NASA returning human spaceflight to United States today (canceled)

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If one freezes then use the other 3. If they all freeze let the autopilot do it's job.

I find it sort of weird to not have buttons in there: with all the vibrations you would think it's rather difficult to touch the exact control that you want. I guess they considered that...

I think the astronauts have very little to actually control. There are a variety of buttons underneath the screens, a big red one being for abort.

Re: SpaceX NASA returning human spaceflight to United States today (canceled)

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Here is pretty accurate in terms of spacecraft UI docking simulator: https://iss-sim.spacex.com/ Astronauts will be using similar for manual piloting demo before docking.

I have tried and barely succeeded, I just hope those are not real controls. Those should be either automated or they should consult someone from gaming industry. Sorry to say UX controls are terrible (saying from gaming position).

It's slightly better than Elite on the Commodore 64

Re: SpaceX NASA returning human spaceflight to United States today (canceled)

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Here is pretty accurate in terms of spacecraft UI docking simulator: https://iss-sim.spacex.com/ Astronauts will be using similar for manual piloting demo before docking.

I'm watching the livestream now. Some of the UX the astronauts are using are large touch screens.

I hope they practiced on tablets

Re: SpaceX NASA returning human spaceflight to United States today (canceled)

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Today is a melancholy feeling. Happy to see SpaceX sending people to space, but sad a decade was lost. EDIT: I spoke about that we had a regression, I meant that NASA lost a capability and just got it back.

I understand this sentiment, but if SpaceX pulls this off, it's going to be an order of magnitude cheaper and more sustainable than the incredibly awesome but one-off and flashy Apollo (or even shuttle) missions. Crew Dragon is not visually BIGGER than a Saturn V, but it is in a lot of ways a firmer footstep into space than we've ever taken before. SpaceX's program isn't going to dry up as soon as the cold war is ove…

> it's going to be an order of magnitude cheaper

Soyuz is $60m per passenger I think? Are they saying dragon would be $6m per passenger per launch? I find that hard to believe...

Re: SpaceX NASA returning human spaceflight to United States today (canceled)

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Does anyone else feel super excited? I guess this was the feeling my parents had when they watched men landing on the Moon...

Today is a melancholy feeling. Happy to see SpaceX sending people to space, but sad a decade was lost. EDIT: I spoke about that we had a regression, I meant that NASA lost a capability and just got it back.

Our parents didn't have privately-owned reusable spaceflight.

Just wait till you see Starship.

Re: SpaceX NASA returning human spaceflight to United States today (canceled)

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post #220

Does anyone else feel super excited? I guess this was the feeling my parents had when they watched men landing on the Moon...

Today is a melancholy feeling. Happy to see SpaceX sending people to space, but sad a decade was lost. EDIT: I spoke about that we had a regression, I meant that NASA lost a capability and just got it back.

Untrue, because:

60 years ago was 1960.

There were no space stations to dock with.

If your parents were American: no Americans had been in space.

But most importantly rockets were not reusable. That is why this has never been done before.

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