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Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by plorkyeran »

Reason077 wrote: post #303
Karunamon wrote: post #240

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It actually gets worse in Apple's case. They were doing it secretly, which is bad enough, but they were also denying warranty repairs to throttled phones (since policy was to only conduct the repairs once an arbitrary "health" metric fell below a certain point, and the throttling kicked in first). This meant your options were to either deal with the crap performance, or void your warranty by installing a third party…

> "your options were to either deal with the crap performance, or void your warranty by installing a third party battery." Or pay Apple a not-entirely-unreasonable fee to get them to replace the battery ($49 IIRC?), a bit more than the third party price but perhaps worth it for peace of mind.

When they first rolled out the throttling they were still charging $79 for a battery replacement. They cut the price significantly specifically as a response to the backlash.

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Post by riobard »

derefr wrote: post #241
vardump wrote: post #228

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> This is so damn frustrating. Agreed. And then there's that extremely childish "Windows 95 blue screen" icon representing SMB shares... Really professional.

I think that icon was meant to be bait for Microsoft. The host metadata, as it shows up in the macOS Finder/open dialogs/etc, is configurable by having your host publish an mDNS _device-info._tcp service record. You can publish a display name (as arbitrary unicode), an icon (as a machine model name), etc. I'm guessing Apple figured that if they made the default icon insulting, that might incense Microsoft into buildi…

To be honest, Xserve is the only sane option for displaying a NAS (with its many drive bays! :)

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by qppo »

plorkyeran wrote: post #319
qppo wrote: post #307

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If MS wanted to kick Apple in the shins they should get the Github Actions runner to support Mojave (right now it only supports Catalina). Would help me stave off upgrading myself and users for a few more months.

You can't run the latest Xcode versions on Mojave, so it'd already be of limited use and in a year it'd be a very niche thing.

This really only matters for iOS builds, meanwhile I have users that can't upgrade to Catalina yet and I need Mojave/High Sierra environments to build and test against.

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Post by ksec »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #256
ksec wrote: post #167

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One of the reason why I dont like GPU acceleration in general. And this isn't just on macOS, Windows, Firefox, Chrome. May be it is better on iOS since Apple owns the whole stack from Metal to Drivers to actual GPU.

Genuine question: How is GPU accelerated rendering more prone to crashes than just doing it on the CPU? Also, on macOS, Apple practically controls the whole stack too. Putting macOS on something that isn’t their hardware is a challenge. Side note: there’s errata on the Intel CPUs, but I’m sure there’s also some (confidential) errata on the “A” series processors in iDevices. If iOS can work around the errata, why coul…

On Mac and Windows, you are relying on Drivers to do the work where you dont have the source code. While the piece of code is running on OpenGL or Direct X or Metal. And on top of all that there is a composition layer.

Modern GPU drivers is an insane piece of optimisation / engineering. But the complexity means you will never quite grasp the problem when things go wrong. In the early days of Firefox or Thunderbird it is recommended you turn off Hardware Acceleration whenever you see Font or Graphics rendering problem. While a lot of these have been fix ( or migrated ), it is still popping up from time to time.

There was a recent thread on HN ( I cant find it sorry ) Firefox asked for help on a GPU rendering bug that they have a hard time figuring out what's wrong.

On iOS, Apple owns the whole thing they can figure out what's wrong and fix it. As Apple write their own GPU drivers.

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

shrimpx wrote: post #285
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #108

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Why do you guys put up with this? Do you like pain? Edit: I'm not trying to troll, I genuinely want to know why people put up with this. I bounce between Linux and Windows and have no loyalty to either of them. I've settled on Windows with WSL2 on my desktop but I'm tempted again to install the new Fedora on my Thinkpad. Is it the lock in? With my hardware I can run anything I want except for macOS. Once you buy Appl…

No intention to be snarky but stability high ground from someone using windows with wsl2?

The post I replied to mentioned macOS locking up and being unusable daily. I can't remember the last time this happened to me on Windows. It's definitely been 4 or more years since the last time I've looked at a Windows BSOD. WSL2 is pre-release but still hasn't given me issues.

So, no snark intended, but where you have you been for the last 5 years? Windows and Microsoft are undergoing a renaissance and moving ahead and improving. macOS is regressing.

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Post by kup0 »

MperorM wrote: post #93

Since Catalina I have been getting daily freezes, where the entire operating system locks up. I can still move the cursor around and audio keeps playing as well, but everything else is completely frozen. Once in a while the freeze lasts so long the computer crashes resulting in a crash report: Termination Reason: WATCHDOG, [0x1] monitoring timed out for service Termination Details: WATCHDOG, checkin with service: Win…

I get 'watchdog timeout' kernel panics. For a while it was daily, since reinstalling OS now it's random.

The issue is I use a far different system than most reporting the issue. I see mentions of macbooks, sleep, etc, but I'm running an iMac 2013, a program that keeps it awake 24/7, etc.

No idea yet what the underlying cause is, but the panics started with 10.15.1 and got worse with 10.15.4, they were not an issue prior to 10.15.1

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Post by dzonga »

rayiner wrote: post #122
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #108

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Why do you guys put up with this? Do you like pain? Edit: I'm not trying to troll, I genuinely want to know why people put up with this. I bounce between Linux and Windows and have no loyalty to either of them. I've settled on Windows with WSL2 on my desktop but I'm tempted again to install the new Fedora on my Thinkpad. Is it the lock in? With my hardware I can run anything I want except for macOS. Once you buy Appl…

I've got a brand-new 2019 16" and am dealing with the widespread crashes on wake from sleep. Honestly, it's a harder decision to send it back than you might think, for several reasons: 1) The hardware quality of other OEMs is bad too. Lenovo has really gone downhill. I sold my maxed-out X1 Carbon 7th Gen, which in less than a year: a) came with an LTE card that never worked for more than an hour at a time; b) had the…

x1 carbon, yeah good. but the T-Series are better. any thin, laptop you're gonna run into the same macbook problems, due the design constraints of letting the laptop be thin and lighweight. I have a t490, hardware solid all around. though lenovo put clippers on the bottom panel. don't know why. I know previous models t480 etc didn't have clippers.

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Post by ngcazz »

js2 wrote: post #210
rayiner wrote: post #116

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Tons of people: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/constant-kernel-panics-... https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-mbp-gpu-panics.22210... There's like a dozen threads on MacRumors and the Apple discussion forums on various crashes, mostly related to sleep, but also to the watchdog timing out for WindowServer due to GPU lockups.

I didn't wade through that entire thread, but the most recent post has a specific set of circumstances: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/constant-kernel-panics-... > After waking from sleep and running a process using hardware accelerated video decoding / encoding, the UI will freeze for a couple of seconds, then starts working again, then freezes again, and so on. The mouse can still be moved but the UI is non-r…

I’ve had this happen on my work MBP (13” non-touch bar, BT magic keyboard and trackpad and HDMI monitor connected via a cheap USB-C hub) a handful of times. Really have no idea what motivated it.

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Post by hundt »

rayiner wrote: post #127
sixothree wrote: post #124

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XPS 15

I'm seriously considering the new XPS 15. It hits much of the same great balance as the 16" MBP, and like the Macbook Pro, it has a 16:10 display. I'm gun shy, because of potential coil whine: https://xps-15.fandom.com/wiki/Coil_Whine > As Coil Whining is a big problem on this model we will try to find out witch parts are causing this noises. First we need to disassemble this notebook and identify the noisy parts. ht…

I tried the XPS 15 7590 late last year before I switched back to Mac when the 16" MBP came out.

It felt like absolute garbage in comparison. Trackpad was so bad I had to use the touchscreen to scroll. Internet stopped working intermittently. Display felt like far inferior quality (and, like you said, your choices are too few pixels or too many).

It was honestly a confusing experience to me, like reviewers or other people who treat these machines as comparable were living on a different planet or something. Of course I don't expect everyone to like Macs and there's nothing wrong with preferring the Dell but I don't understand why the quality differences are not more widely acknowledged.

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