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Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by vadarvariu »

MperorM wrote: post #93

Since Catalina I have been getting daily freezes, where the entire operating system locks up. I can still move the cursor around and audio keeps playing as well, but everything else is completely frozen. Once in a while the freeze lasts so long the computer crashes resulting in a crash report: Termination Reason: WATCHDOG, [0x1] monitoring timed out for service Termination Details: WATCHDOG, checkin with service: Win…

I've had the opposite problem: started getting awful freezes on a MBP 2018 running Mojave on the day this latest Catalina version was released. No immediate explanation: cpu/ram/disk load perfectly normal, machine just incredibly slow (think 10 minutes to start up). Exact same behaviour in Safe Mode and nothing obvious after some common diagnoses.

Bit the bullet and finally updated to Catalina, all problems gone. Not sure what to make of this but it definitely resonates with stories of Apple practically forcing updates.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by snazz »

frereubu wrote: post #197
yedpodtrzitko wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"works on my machine"

Most of this thread is anecdata, which tends to skew heavily negative. As a comment above says, it's difficult to tell whether these are issues at scale, and whenever I read these complaint-heavy anecdata threads I always feel like chipping in that I've had very few problems with my Mid-2014 MacBook Pro 15" on all versions of MacOS that have been release since I bought it. I'm not even sure what the purpose of thread…

Yes. It's extremely difficult to get an idea of the scale of these problems from these threads because they bring out a lot of +1 piggybacking ("I have this issue too"). From there, it inevitably goes into a thread about the demise of Apple's quality control.

Somebody should make an accurate product problems site where you can share your issues and people can only vote on them if they legitimately have that issue. Then it would be obvious the extent to which the problem is actually there.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by caribousoup »

rado wrote: post #27
dochtman wrote: post #12

Software Update isn't showing me 10.15.5 yet. Others? On my 2019 16" I've definitely noticed that Zoom calls slow stuff down by a lot. Would be great if that gets fixed here.

Press ⌘+R in System Preferences – Software Update (really)

Wow, I never realized this.

Make sure the Search field isn't focused, it is by default on launch.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by LeSaucy »

chris_wot wrote: post #35

I am constantly gobsmacked by how slow point release upgrades are. On Ubuntu, it takes virtually no time and doesn’t interrupt my workflow.

There are plenty of disruptive ubuntu upgrade issues, for example for almost 5 years (through 12.04 to 16.04!) if you installed on LVM volumes your /boot partition never cleaned up old vmlinuz and initrd images, causing dpkg-reconfigure to fail, leaving dpkg completely broken.

Operating systems are hard.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by colejohnson66 »

ksec wrote: post #167
rayiner wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tons of people: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/constant-kernel-panics-... https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-mbp-gpu-panics.22210... There's like a dozen threads on MacRumors and the Apple discussion forums on various crashes, mostly related to sleep, but also to the watchdog timing out for WindowServer due to GPU lockups.

One of the reason why I dont like GPU acceleration in general. And this isn't just on macOS, Windows, Firefox, Chrome. May be it is better on iOS since Apple owns the whole stack from Metal to Drivers to actual GPU.

Genuine question: How is GPU accelerated rendering more prone to crashes than just doing it on the CPU?

Also, on macOS, Apple practically controls the whole stack too. Putting macOS on something that isn’t their hardware is a challenge.

Side note: there’s errata on the Intel CPUs, but I’m sure there’s also some (confidential) errata on the “A” series processors in iDevices. If iOS can work around the errata, why couldn’t macOS?

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by flocial »

m1h4 wrote: post #31

Still having a (at least one of the multiple different) kernel panic during sleep: panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff801e29169c): Sleep transition timed out after 180 seconds while calling power state change callbacks. Suspected bundle: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily. Thread 0x2754. Ever since moving to a brand new 16" MBP there isn't a day that passes wihout me being welcomed by the crash report dialog…

Anytime I have sleep-related kernel panic issues I delete the sleep image:

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/326807/removing-th...

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by gonehome »

reaperducer wrote: post #84
gonehome wrote: post #7

The group FaceTime UI is very strange, why have several overlapping boxes rather than just dividing the screen equally and using all of it? I know it's like this in iOS, but I'm not sure what group video looks like in macOS (though it sounds like it's the same based on the update text here). It's weird because the easier thing also seems like the obvious thing, and it's clearly better.

why have several overlapping boxes rather than just dividing the screen equally and using all of it It's good for smaller screens. I was on a Zoom video conference last week, and all I could think about was how so many people who weren't allowed to/going to speak were taking up valuable screen real estate.

At least when it's a four people conversation this doesn't really ring true.

Then I see three boxes of the other people that are smaller than they would otherwise be if evenly divided. Most of the screen is black empty space.

Minimally I'd prefer a gallery view of all speakers option and it's probably the better option up to at least 6 people.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by diebeforei485 »

lxgr wrote: post #94

Battery health management sounds great! I wish there was a way to customize this, though: Thinkpads have (on Linux) allowed setting thresholds for "charge only when less than" or "charge only up to" for many years now. Given that such primitives must also exist as part of 10.15.5 now, I hope that somebody will figure out how to modify the default behavior.

I'm glad that sort of thing doesn't exist on macOS by default, though third-party tools have existed for a while.

I'd much rather the system figure out the charge threshold dynamically based on all sorts of variables like temperature, battery degradation level, expected imminent usage (learn from my own past usage on-device -- coreduetd) and other variables they can take into account. Which is what it does.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by lsllc »

cordite wrote: post #203
rayiner wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tons of people: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/constant-kernel-panics-... https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-mbp-gpu-panics.22210... There's like a dozen threads on MacRumors and the Apple discussion forums on various crashes, mostly related to sleep, but also to the watchdog timing out for WindowServer due to GPU lockups.

I don't even let my screens turn off anymore; these days I get this weird thing where after waking the monitors up the monitor does not get a signal, but if it is plugged in, the mouse jumps around at like 2fps on the main display as if there's some weird interrupt denial of service going on. To fix this, I have to restart just to use my monitor again.

External display wakeup problems have been an issue on many generations of MacBook Pro going back to PowerBooks (even with Apple displays). Very annoying!
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