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Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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From what can be understood: Writing a backend with Supabase will turn into managing all these servers.

Backend Server = Supabase (for realtime) + PostgREST (for REST APIs) + Serverless Functions (for business logic) + Postgres SQL database.

For somebody using Firebase today, How will this solution with Supabase be simple to manage and scale ?

Help me understand if I am wrong.

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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That would be step one out of the first three that I bother with :).

I read "skipping steps 1-3" instead of "keeping steps 1-3", my bad. Do you have good resources for learning Elixir with OTP and Phoenix ? I also believe LiveView can deliver the 80% of functionalities for 20% of the price, so I'm very interested in learning it

Programming Phoenix 1.4 is probably the best book. Very friendly and easy to follow (and written by the Phoenix and Elixir creators)

https://pragprog.com/book/phoenix14/programming-phoenix-1-4

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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I am a strong believer that Firebase model is the way forward. Huge fan of Firebase but it is scary to have no proper alternatives. Yes, sure you can have a similar setup with AWS or bespoke implementation but they are not in the same spirit. Very glad to see people working on alternatives. IMHO though, what makes Firebase special is the glue they use: Account management and libraries come for free so you can start t…

Amazon seem to be working on bringing Amplify up to the same standard as Firebase, and it's certainly getting there, so in the near-future there may be quite a few alternatives.

I wrote a master thesis where I compared several realtime database products. I promise you amplify is no where "getting there". It is a crippled version of firebase and there is no fix in sight. For example you cannot even do sort-queries with datastore or Amplify is not working with angular because they have broken typings since 9 months with no fix. And the list goes on..

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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It looks like a database client driver with realtime (insert only? notice but why do you call it firebase alternative ? It sounds like horizon (RethinkDB middleware) but for postgres.

Our docs are a bit outdated and overly focused on the realtime server. We also have auto-generating APIs (with docs that update as you update your database), a query dashboard, and we are building a table interface like Airtable. The next big task is auth, which we are working on right now.

Can supabase be used with the offline-first approach like horizon, RxDB etc. or does it require an ongoing connection to the server?

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Is this a joke about supa hot fire? Since I'm here for it.

Funny story, Supabase was originally a placeholder name - it was a joke so that Ant (co-founder) and I could entertain each other with Nikki Minaj "Super Bass" memes while we were brainstorming. But the name grew on us once we made the initial design. Thankfully Nikki Minaj isn't well-known amongst techies. I hope I haven't just ruined our credibility

Nikki Minaj is great.

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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It hardly compares to Firebase - their main selling points is super quick to start, easy to use, very cheap, lots of integrations. Unfortunately, all alternatives to Firebase, even if not counting the large lack of features, are way more expensive, and lack many integrations, especially mobile.

This was posted a bit early (it wasn't posted by us), but see my comments here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23320443 tldr: > We've been building furiously since January but (not surprisingly) we haven't yet reached feature parity. But we will :)

My point is that sure, there is a valid use case for your service, for people who are looking for an open-source alternative they can host. But if we are talking Firebase - most users want exactly the opposite - they don't want to host their own servers. And when comparing your cloud to Firebase - you won't be able to compete on price. And probably on features and integrations. They've been building that for many years now. All I am saying is it not comparable to Firebase. But lots of people want their own hosted backend they can extend, or will be glad to pay extra for your cloud and for your unique features.

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Congrats, the project looks solid. It's obviously targeted to JS devs who are familiar with firebase or want an easy/similar abstraction for realtime apps. It's great to have several great frameworks tackling the same problem with different flavours (Hasura, Phoenix, Supabase, etc), all with postgres as first class citizen.

I feel like the key is in the choice for the realtime backend (Phoenix/Elixir). I've built real-time firebase apps (JS) in the past and today my choice would probably be Phoenix. It also saves many LoC (80-90%?), and it's a joy to work with. Reduces the JS fatigue and opens up a new paradigm that makes programming fun again.

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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I wouldn't worry about this. Any examples?

I got my old google account banned when I enabled adsense (and did absolutely nothing with it). They blocked me from random number of their services so that account became unusable. And I dis nothing wrong. And no way for appeal.

idk what I was thinking with my comment above! I think it was misplaced.

It's really sad that Google and other big corps do this to people. They destroy their livelihoods on a whim. We really have to think of a way to divest ourselves from them (GCloud, AWS, I;m looking at you too)

Re: Supabase (YC S20) – An open source Firebase alternative

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Firebase smell the Google Maps model with its “free” for a long time plan, before turning up the price when most of the market is used to the product and are to deeply locked to the API.

Just this year, Google/firebase has dropped their flat monthly fee plan which increased the spark plans limits. Just this week cloud functions have been removed from the free spark plan, which will break a lot of peoples apps. These decisions are alienating to me. I've been working on migrating my heroku mern stack app to firebase but now I'm having serious second thoughts. I was initially attracted by the free and f…

Wow, did not know they dropped cloud functions from the free tier, but don't you get a free usage tier as long as you provide a credit card?
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