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Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by ilikehurdles »

lonelappde wrote: post #57
TechBro8615 wrote: post #34

How does anyone think this is a good idea? It should be clear which news site I am reading when I'm reading an article. Otherwise, how do I know which bias to apply? On iOS, the title bar says "google.com" whether I'm reading an article from CNN.com or WashingtonExaminer.com. Of all the anti-competitive actions google has taken around search results, AMP is by far the worst. I hope they get smacked down for it in the…

What about the URL bar? For average non techie users, the URL bar isn't particularly helpful. They use page content. And AMP pages do show the original page domain name.

The URL bar is helpful to fighting phishing attacks. It's one of the things everyone at my company, including the non-technical people, is askedt to check before entering information.

Also techie and non-techie people have been using the same browsers for how many decades now? Aren't the majority of people in many countries on the internet? It seems like the average non-techie users succeeded in figuring things out so far.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by coldpie »

simpss wrote: post #75
m-p-3 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And there are so many nice features, like the !bangs search prefixes, and the ability to store and sync your preferences as a passphrase, without requiring an actual account. The dark scheme is also quite good.

the only gripe i have with DDG is missing 'site: "somewebsite.com"' option. Is there a way to achieve it? I mainly use it for '*.countrydomain' to get results for a specific country.

I think you want "inurl", see here: https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sy...

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by iagovar »

allendoerfer wrote: post #86
iagovar wrote: post #72

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Use firefox or brave. I solved this problem. I'm only waiting for a proper alternative to Android, I'm so tired of google and its swallow way of doing things...

I have thought the same for year and finally just switched to iOS.

Yeah, but then you have another vendor lock in, not to mention that apple products are expensive for me, I don't have an US salary.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by chrischattin »

simpss wrote: post #75
m-p-3 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And there are so many nice features, like the !bangs search prefixes, and the ability to store and sync your preferences as a passphrase, without requiring an actual account. The dark scheme is also quite good.

the only gripe i have with DDG is missing 'site: "somewebsite.com"' option. Is there a way to achieve it? I mainly use it for '*.countrydomain' to get results for a specific country.

"site:somewebsite.com some_search" works just fine on DDG.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by ninkendo »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #78
pixelpoet wrote: post #14

To think their motto used to be "don't be evil"... pretty insidious in retrospect.

The thing is, from their point of view they aren't evil; they are "making the web faster", they say (and they're not wrong) that most sites are so full of crap like trackers and adverts that it negatively impacts your browsing experience. This Twitter post costs me 1.6MB of bandwidth and it keeps pinging for more stuff, and that's with an ad blocker enabled. While we're talking just bytes in terms of the main message…

Amp-the-standard is not the same thing as amp-the-google-UX.

I'd love for sites to adopt AMP, as a standard for web design which leads to very lean sites without content pop-in. That'd be awesome! Give me a little icon next to the search result that says "this site is AMP certified" so I know it'll be fast.

But what I don't love, is that Google uses AMP as a trojan horse to keep me inside the google search results as I browse the internet, by:

- Rehosting the amp sites on their CDN

- Pre-rendering sites I haven't clicked yet to make them load faster

- Putting the site in some pop-over div which makes me feel like I'm still in the google results (so I can pop right back quickly and spend more time on google!)

- Breaking the swipe gesture

- Breaking the URL bar

- Breaking my phone's auto-hide for the URL bar

- etc etc

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by acheron »

nojito wrote: post #19

I always chuckle to myself when people are quick to attack amazon/facebook as being the real evil companies....while google has been slowly taking over the internet these past 10 years.

More than 10. Chrome came out in 2008.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by maxwell »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #63
inetknght wrote: post #8

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Who's being forced to use AMP? The user? Remember, the user is the product .

Basically, Google is penalizing webmasters who do NOT support AMP (also by rewarding competitors who DO support it); if you depend on Google search results for a significant portion of your traffic, not having AMP will impact your business.

And the Department of Justice is investigating whether this results in higher prices for consumers, if so their business conduct will deserve antitrust restraint under the current consumer welfare standard.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by wolco »

simpss wrote: post #75
m-p-3 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And there are so many nice features, like the !bangs search prefixes, and the ability to store and sync your preferences as a passphrase, without requiring an actual account. The dark scheme is also quite good.

the only gripe i have with DDG is missing 'site: "somewebsite.com"' option. Is there a way to achieve it? I mainly use it for '*.countrydomain' to get results for a specific country.

Try the hidden param "sites"

http://duckduckgo.com/?q=duckduckgo&sites=stackoverflow.com

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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Post by delouvois »

ilikehurdles wrote: post #91
lonelappde wrote: post #57

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What about the URL bar? For average non techie users, the URL bar isn't particularly helpful. They use page content. And AMP pages do show the original page domain name.

The URL bar is helpful to fighting phishing attacks. It's one of the things everyone at my company, including the non-technical people, is askedt to check before entering information. Also techie and non-techie people have been using the same browsers for how many decades now? Aren't the majority of people in many countries on the internet? It seems like the average non-techie users succeeded in figuring things out s…

URL are "not particularly helpful for non-techie users" ?

How did you even end up here is beyond me.

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