Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

macOS Catalina 10.15.5

support.apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

181–190 of 387 posts

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

#181

Post by smsx »

gtCameron wrote: post #162
logical_proof wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am! It only happens when I am on multiple monitors (clamshell opened or closed) and usually when I am in a video conference (zoom, hangouts, and G2meeting). Thought it was overheating.

I had that same issue with multiple monitors a year or two ago. Tried everything, reformatting, different OS versions, etc. Turns out it was one of my mini displayport -> hdmi adapters, replaced that and everything was fine.

I had the exact same issue with a 2017 13” MBP. Switching from one of those tiny usb c hubs to a full fledged dock with external power solved it.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

#182

Post by misternugget »

m1h4 wrote: post #31

Still having a (at least one of the multiple different) kernel panic during sleep: panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff801e29169c): Sleep transition timed out after 180 seconds while calling power state change callbacks. Suspected bundle: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily. Thread 0x2754. Ever since moving to a brand new 16" MBP there isn't a day that passes wihout me being welcomed by the crash report dialog…

FWIW I've ran into this too with a new 16" MBP and what largely fixed it for me (happened once in two weeks vs. every time the computer went to sleep) was to disable "Power Nap while plugged into a power adaptor" in the "Energy Saver" system preferences.

(I'm aware that this might not be applicable to your situation, since you might not even use a power adaptor when the crashes happen, just wanted to point this out in case it helps someone else)

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

#183

Post by asdff »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #138
rayiner wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a brand-new 2019 16" and am dealing with the widespread crashes on wake from sleep. Honestly, it's a harder decision to send it back than you might think, for several reasons: 1) The hardware quality of other OEMs is bad too. Lenovo has really gone downhill. I sold my maxed-out X1 Carbon 7th Gen, which in less than a year: a) came with an LTE card that never worked for more than an hour at a time; b) had the…

Have you considered keeping the Macbook and running Bootcamp full time? (Or Linux, but I know Linux was in a bad state on new Macbooks as of fairly recently, don’t know if it has gotten better.)

Bootcamp drivers are in a sorry state. Expect battery life, performance, trackpad, display to all tank.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

#184

Post by jfkebwjsbx »

paultopia wrote: post #74
m1h4 wrote: post #31

Still having a (at least one of the multiple different) kernel panic during sleep: panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff801e29169c): Sleep transition timed out after 180 seconds while calling power state change callbacks. Suspected bundle: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily. Thread 0x2754. Ever since moving to a brand new 16" MBP there isn't a day that passes wihout me being welcomed by the crash report dialog…

Oh damnit, damnit. I've been having those on 10.15.4 too, was really hoping they'd fixed it on this one. It's really profoundly upsetting to spend $3,500 on a brand new computer by the most reliable major manufacturer in the industry and still have daily damn kernel panics.

> by the most reliable major manufacturer in the industry

You might want to revisit that.

If you are looking for reliability, ThinkPads are way better.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

#185

Post by dezzeus »

inapis wrote: post #18
irrational wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do. I rarely need to take it anywhere.

This destroys battery. You do need to charge and discharge the battery frequently.

IIRC you should strive to never reach the extremes; i.e. keep in the 20–80% range in order to maximize its lifespan.

Another tip was to avoid rapid energy consumption (such as from intensive use of CPU or discrete GPU usage) while on battery.

My main issue is that whenever you plug an external monitor, this automatically trigger the discrete GPU, and I'm using an external monitor for working from home (due to the cervical), so I'm mostly using the charger.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

#186

Post by Wowfunhappy »

asdff wrote: post #183
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered keeping the Macbook and running Bootcamp full time? (Or Linux, but I know Linux was in a bad state on new Macbooks as of fairly recently, don’t know if it has gotten better.)

Bootcamp drivers are in a sorry state. Expect battery life, performance, trackpad, display to all tank.

I was recently using Bootcamp on a relative's 2020 Macbook Air, and I was generally impressed with how well everything worked. Especially the Trackpad, which I remembered being a problem under Bootcamp many years ago.

If I didn't dislike Windows so much, I thought I could see myself using that setup full time.

I didn't look at battery life though.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

#187

Post by asdff »

sroussey wrote: post #179
diimdeep wrote: post #3

> The battery health management feature in macOS 10.15.5 is designed to improve your battery's lifespan by reducing the rate at which it chemically ages. The feature does this by monitoring your battery's temperature history and its charging patterns. > Based on the measurements that it collects, battery health management may reduce your battery's maximum charge when in this mode. This happens as needed to ensure tha…

I just had a MBP fixed (it was quick!) due to it swollen up one day. It would not lie down flat on a table and the trackpad was useless. Obviously could not close the screen either. How common is this?

My old mbp swelled up enough to shatter the trackpad glass. During zoom calls it would overheat and swell and disable keyboard and trackpad function until it cooled off.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

#188

Post by zitterbewegung »

csdreamer7 wrote: post #173
rayiner wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a brand-new 2019 16" and am dealing with the widespread crashes on wake from sleep. Honestly, it's a harder decision to send it back than you might think, for several reasons: 1) The hardware quality of other OEMs is bad too. Lenovo has really gone downhill. I sold my maxed-out X1 Carbon 7th Gen, which in less than a year: a) came with an LTE card that never worked for more than an hour at a time; b) had the…

Have you considered System76? I have a similar issues with OEM's laptop quality years ago with both HP and Dell. System76 laptops have been a pleasure to use. The new Lemur Pro has a 10th gen CPU, does not have a numpad, and does have an FHD panel. They claim up to 14 hours of battery life on Linux. (21 hours coding on VIM.) https://system76.com/laptops/lemur https://www.fosslinux.com/36826/system76-lemur-pro-a-linux…

I had a friend who bought one and it stopped working after two years. Their build quality is worse.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

#189

Post by Foivos »

Wintamute wrote: post #99
emrikol wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the same. Every day. I've done a lot of searching, and some people think that certain external monitors might be "the issue"--which I use. It didn't seem to be an issue before Catalina though.

Hmm, same for me perhaps. New MBP 16 and Catalina connected to a external monitor via USB-C (a HP Z27 4K UHD). If I leave it to sleep for a long duration, then it panics when waking from sleep and just black screens for a good few minutes, then turns on the fans full blast for like 2 seconds and reboots. I've taken to just shutting down completely when finishing work and not letting sleep.

I have the same monitor and connect over usb-c with a 2018 13' MBP running 10.15.4. I have not experienced any such issue, even though Catalina broke several other things.

In my case, if I use the usb-c port of the monitor to connect the ethernet adaptor, it works for a few minutes and then drops all the packets. This was never an issue before Catalina or with a windows machine.

Another weird issue that I have with this monitor and Mac OS (not only Catalina) is related to the Microsoft sculpt ergonomic keyboard receiver, when plugged to one of the USB ports of the monitor. If I unplug a the MBP and connect a windows machine to the monitor, when I connect the MBP again, there is a >50% chance the receiver will not be recognised. Plugging and unplugging does not work. I have to do a restart of the MBP.

The above make it very annoying when I have to switch laptops. Sometimes I have to work on 3 machines at the same time, which by coincidence run 3 different operating systems (Win 10, ubuntu and mac). The reason I got this monitor is mostly for the build in hub. If it worked properly, I would just plug everything on the monitor and I would only need to plug the usb-C to the laptop and be ready to go. Sometimes it does work and I feel like I am in the future, using a dock that can support every device, with just one universal cable. Now I often have to plug and plug things directly at the laptops.

One last thing for people who might consider a similar set up. Due to USB limitations, if you plug any storage device on the monitor and the monitor is at 4k@60Hz, you are limited to USB2 speeds.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

#190

Post by pmarreck »

AlexandrB wrote: post #120
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you guys put up with this? Do you like pain? Edit: I'm not trying to troll, I genuinely want to know why people put up with this. I bounce between Linux and Windows and have no loyalty to either of them. I've settled on Windows with WSL2 on my desktop but I'm tempted again to install the new Fedora on my Thinkpad. Is it the lock in? With my hardware I can run anything I want except for macOS. Once you buy Appl…

Personally I'm staying the hell away from Catalina, but it's not like Windows is the land of milk & honey. I've lost overnight testing data multiple times thanks to Windows' hostile "we're rebooting right now, whether you want to or not" upgrade strategy, and their mandatory telemetry bullshit is well-known at this point. Basically: Catalina sucks, but there's nowhere to go that's unequivocally better.

For non-Home Basic versions of Windows you can change the policy for this (which I've done, and which works well, for exactly the reasons you've mentioned):

https://www.techspot.com/guides/230-prevent-automatic-window...

You can also disable Cortana, the telemetry stuff etc. https://blogs.systweak.com/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data...

Post reply on HN