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Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by riscy »

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #132

Anybody knows what has happened that multiple manufacturers (at least Dell, HP, Lenovo, ASUS, and now Apple) have released _all within this year_ updates to "enhance battery health management"? Even on devices which were otherwise out of support already. I ponder what has happened. I didn't hear any recent stories of battery explosions, huge battery recalls, or new regulations, yet all manufacturers are reacting to s…

Apple got sued for throttling iPhones with overly aged batteries. My understanding is that for all battery-dependent devices, you either sometimes throttle the CPU so it doesn’t demand more voltage than the battery can reliably deliver, or else you risk sudden power loss at what appears to be 20% life.

After the lawsuit I assume now all manufacturers leaving it up to the consumer to decide which behavior they want.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by slig »

Wintamute wrote: post #99
emrikol wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the same. Every day. I've done a lot of searching, and some people think that certain external monitors might be "the issue"--which I use. It didn't seem to be an issue before Catalina though.

Hmm, same for me perhaps. New MBP 16 and Catalina connected to a external monitor via USB-C (a HP Z27 4K UHD). If I leave it to sleep for a long duration, then it panics when waking from sleep and just black screens for a good few minutes, then turns on the fans full blast for like 2 seconds and reboots. I've taken to just shutting down completely when finishing work and not letting sleep.

My MBP2019 running 10.14 also freezes if left on clamshell mode connected to a USB-C (U3818DW) monitor overnight.

After discovering this, I now put the macbook to sleep and remove the USB cable. Haven't had any issues after this.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by the_angry_angel »

rayiner wrote: post #127
sixothree wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

XPS 15

I'm seriously considering the new XPS 15. It hits much of the same great balance as the 16" MBP, and like the Macbook Pro, it has a 16:10 display. I'm gun shy, because of potential coil whine: https://xps-15.fandom.com/wiki/Coil_Whine > As Coil Whining is a big problem on this model we will try to find out witch parts are causing this noises. First we need to disassemble this notebook and identify the noisy parts. ht…

I switched to a XPS-15 9570 from a MBP of roughly equiv spec, but previous gen, after the last round of laptop shuffles at work - I went from MacOS to Windows at the same time in order to feel the pain of our environment under Windows.

I'm not saying that it's a bad laptop. But there are just so many little annoying things about it after coming from the MBP and MacOS;

* Trackpad is subjectively worse, but I can't tell you why beyond its just smaller - but I am objectively much less accurate with it and trigger tap-clicks when I don't mean to. The trackpad positioning is also slightly uncomfortable to use.

* Fan noise - the fan curve has it ramping up earlier than a MBP

* Windows was hosed out of the box (fine, fixable, but it wasn't a good start)

* The "soft" covering results in so many fingerprints

* Webcam on the bottom bezel is an awful angle

Pros;

* Great screen, touch is a nice add-on but found I rarely use it now

* Keyboard isn't terrible

* Power adapter isn't a brick

Would I do it again. Honestly, not sure. My daily driver isn't the laptop and I just deal. If I had to use the laptop daily, I'd probably reconsider.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by stu2b50 »

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #132

Anybody knows what has happened that multiple manufacturers (at least Dell, HP, Lenovo, ASUS, and now Apple) have released _all within this year_ updates to "enhance battery health management"? Even on devices which were otherwise out of support already. I ponder what has happened. I didn't hear any recent stories of battery explosions, huge battery recalls, or new regulations, yet all manufacturers are reacting to s…

This in specific is because so many people have gone from using their laptop battery to keeping their laptop fully charged on the plug all the time due to WFH. That can be unhealthy if the device keeps the battery topped off.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

caribousoup wrote: post #117
i2shar wrote: post #10

It's crazy that even dot releases are a full 3.6G download

Right... the earlier point releases were 100-500 MB. Full history of OS X update sizes: https://robservatory.com/a-full-history-of-macos-os-x-releas... It seemed to start getting out of hand around Yosemite 2014.

Yosemite is where OS X started getting out of hand in general, though it took a while for the papercuts to add up.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by taf2 »

MperorM wrote: post #93

Since Catalina I have been getting daily freezes, where the entire operating system locks up. I can still move the cursor around and audio keeps playing as well, but everything else is completely frozen. Once in a while the freeze lasts so long the computer crashes resulting in a crash report: Termination Reason: WATCHDOG, [0x1] monitoring timed out for service Termination Details: WATCHDOG, checkin with service: Win…

I had similar issues as you but it turned out to be the hardware was bad... I replaced my macbook pro and it's been great... But the other hardware issue on the new macbook pro's is if you charge on any of the USB-c ports other than the one on the right side, you'll likely run the laptop too hot... so charge on the right side not the left side and you should be good... it's crappy i know... but new laptop i've almost and charging on the right side i've nearly forgotten about all of my apple hate...

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by darkteflon »

tempodox wrote: post #112
darkteflon wrote: post #5

> Major new releases of macOS are no longer hidden when using the softwareupdate(8) command with the --ignore flag. This change also affects macOS Mojave and macOS High Sierra after installing Security Update 2020-003. As a Mojave user, not happy about this.

I was just about to let the 2020-003 Security Update run on Mojave, but after this warning I will leave that well alone. Apple had a great OS once, but now they are losing me more with each update. Can't buy new Mac HW either any more, since it will be systematically unable to run the 32-bit SW I need. Apple forcing decades-long users off their platform to Windoze and Linux is just bizarre.

When Catalina dropped, it became obvious that while Apple computers and I have had a good run, we’re now going in different directions. I started migrating to Linux late last year.

If your workflow is amenable to it, and you can stay productive during the (inevitably drawn-out) transition, I highly recommend you consider taking the plunge.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by ascagnel_ »

TheChaplain wrote: post #15
i2shar wrote: post #10

It's crazy that even dot releases are a full 3.6G download

Binary patching hasn't been a thing for years unfortunately. Even bigger wreck on consoles these days, where an update can be 50+ gigabytes...

Xbox 360 patches were handled differently -- only the game binary would be included in the initial patch; any content updates were released as free DLC add-on packs (or, if a game was releasing new paid DLC, they'd require a new add-on pack that included some subset of the new content for free).

PS4 updates are notably bad, since they do a full copy & write (vs write-in-place) on patches. It's good if there's an issue on updating, since you can delete the partially-updated copy and start over, but bad because it requires more than 2x the disk space for the patch.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by satysin »

MperorM wrote: post #93

Since Catalina I have been getting daily freezes, where the entire operating system locks up. I can still move the cursor around and audio keeps playing as well, but everything else is completely frozen. Once in a while the freeze lasts so long the computer crashes resulting in a crash report: Termination Reason: WATCHDOG, [0x1] monitoring timed out for service Termination Details: WATCHDOG, checkin with service: Win…

Have you tried the "nuke from orbit" approach of a full system wipe (T2, SMC and NVRAM reset, delete recovery partitions, Pre-boot volume, etc) and doing a fresh install and setup rather than restoring from backup?

I know it shouldn't be needed but sometimes it is the only option.

It isn't much help to you but my experience with Catalina has been very positive on a 2018 15" MacBook Pro. The initial release and first two point updates had some silly UI bugs but since .4 it has been solid as a rock for me.

I just updated to .5 and noticed I haven't had to restart my laptop since the last update I installed 42 days ago. In those 42 days I haven't had a single issue so I am pretty happy about that.

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