What all media (except Reuters...) failed to report: free Supercharging seems to be gone for S/X.
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#12Tesla is going to get a huge amount of free publicity today. First from the SpaceX manned launch today who are going to be driven to the pad in a Model X and then later this evening from Jay Leno's Cybertruck test drive episode.
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#13Free supercharging is not on the X or S now. That is a significant change.
Supercharging Max/ Payment Type200 kW max; Pay Per Use
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you expect reliability and quality, you also find the ownership experience to be different. I have owned three.
Please elaborate
One X was a lemon and spent months in the shop. The second X was better but still needs a warranty repair every few months. The 3 is better still but has had six or seven service visits.
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#15People keep talking about batteries getting cheaper, how likely is it that this largely reflects changes in the cost to Tesla to produce these vehicles? On the flip side how likely is it that this is cutting substantially into Tesla's profit margin?
They're trying to boost sales with price cuts:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-prices/tesla-cuts-p...
All car manufacturers have seen sales decline due to the coronavirus pandemic.
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#16Makes sense. Model Y is picking up steam. I doubt they are selling 100% production of the other models (Y is eating a bit into sales of all 3). S and X are both in need of a refresh, they have worse battery tech than both the 3 and Y and missing some of the cool Y features (heat pump, octovalve). Current wait is 8-12 weeks on a Y, and only a week or two on the rest. In line for my first Tesla (a y). It has been a ver…
> Current wait is 8-12 weeks on a Y, and only a week or two on the rest. Here in Europe it's August for all of S/3/X.
You are waiting for Berlin to go up right? Or is that next year?
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#17People keep talking about batteries getting cheaper, how likely is it that this largely reflects changes in the cost to Tesla to produce these vehicles? On the flip side how likely is it that this is cutting substantially into Tesla's profit margin?
pricing rarely has anything to do with cost to produce, especially for goods are aren’t perceived as commodities
Like how the V8 Mustang is a 10k premium over the turbo four, there's absolutely not a 10k difference in production costs.
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#18What all media (except Reuters...) failed to report: free Supercharging seems to be gone for S/X.
I think someone did the math and you would need to supercharge 100k mikes to pay 5k. The cash is a better deal for almost all.
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#19People keep talking about batteries getting cheaper, how likely is it that this largely reflects changes in the cost to Tesla to produce these vehicles? On the flip side how likely is it that this is cutting substantially into Tesla's profit margin?
pricing rarely has anything to do with cost to produce, especially for goods are aren’t perceived as commodities
Tesla have claimed before that it does.
> “When we launched Model X 75D, it had a low gross margin. As we’ve achieved efficiencies, we are able to lower the price and pass along more value to our customers,” Tesla said in a statement. (2017)
In this case, selling excess inventory/capacity seems a more likely reason, perhaps also the introduction of new Model S/X variants/features.
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#20This has always been their stated plan, to pass on cost savings to customers as they get more efficient and profitable. They did some similar cuts last year. Nice to see it continuing.
They also raise prices from time to time, it's not all cuts.