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Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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Post by alistairSH »

frockington1 wrote: post #92
sp332 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this is specifically on a tweet calling the validity of the election into question. It's blatantly wrong, but he needs his base to believe him when he says the election is rigged.

Hasn't the other side been #NotMyPresient and throwing a tantrum about the validity of the last election? Trump is not a trailblazer in this regard

There's a massive difference between...

1. Questioning whether the Electoral College (and its tendency to devalue votes in some states) has a place in the modern US.

2. Questioning whether the election itself is completely rigged (via fraudulent votes).

#1 is the question many liberals have been asking. #2 is thee claim that the entire GOP has been making for years, despite their own investigations never turning up more than a few individuals voting fraudulently (but never systematic fraud perpetrated by the political left, as they claim).

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Post by jki275 »

50ckpuppet wrote: post #144
wegs wrote: post #89

For the most part, I support platform neutrality. I don't agree with all the Google censorship of misinformation and "misinformation" on their platforms. I think Facebook should have less evil algorithms (it seems designed to encourage polarization), but I wouldn't want censorship or commentary their either. This case is an exception. Twitter drew a line in the sand. It is in exactly the right place. The PoTUS is thr…

"The PoTUS is threatening to shut down elections in November:" linkage ??

There isn't one. It's just fearmongery.

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Post by aabhay »

commandlinefan wrote: post #119
wegs wrote: post #89

For the most part, I support platform neutrality. I don't agree with all the Google censorship of misinformation and "misinformation" on their platforms. I think Facebook should have less evil algorithms (it seems designed to encourage polarization), but I wouldn't want censorship or commentary their either. This case is an exception. Twitter drew a line in the sand. It is in exactly the right place. The PoTUS is thr…

> It is in exactly the right place If they start fact-checking everybody, it is. Otherwise, they're just campaigning for the other side.

They have been fact checking other people. It was precisely that they weren’t fact checking trump.

Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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Post by ecmascript »

thatwasunusual wrote: post #258
Ididntdothis wrote: post #235

I feel like we are slowly reaching the state the movie “Idiocracy” describes. I feel very torn about this. On the one hand I don’t think we should leave it up to companies like Twitter to censor things. On the other hand I find it hard to believe that the president is constantly claiming things without any evidence backing up. It started with the claims of millions of illegal voters in 2016 and the commission they st…

> On the one hand I don’t think we should leave it up to companies like Twitter to censor things. Is it really _censorship_ to fact check tweets? I mean, Twitter hasn't _removed_ (i.e. censored) any tweets from Trump, just added an annotation.

No but it's literally censorship to remove people from Twitter because they use the correct gender pronoun for a biological sex.

Where are the fact-checking in all those cases, I wonder?

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Post by pinopinopino »

Ididntdothis wrote: post #235

I feel like we are slowly reaching the state the movie “Idiocracy” describes. I feel very torn about this. On the one hand I don’t think we should leave it up to companies like Twitter to censor things. On the other hand I find it hard to believe that the president is constantly claiming things without any evidence backing up. It started with the claims of millions of illegal voters in 2016 and the commission they st…

>Idiocracy

Or how they call it on the right side: Clown World. Guess nobody is happy with the current affairs.

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Post by spinach »

nojito wrote: post #118
djohnston wrote: post #79

The head of integrity has unabashedly showcased his strong political bias on Twitter, and I suspect things will begin going poorly for either him or Twitter shortly.

twitter is a private organization. Regulating the speech of private organizations is a dangerous slope to be on.

Twitter already regulates speech though, to their own agenda.

I got into the gender debate recently (a big mistake), and so many gender critical people get suspended or banned just for believing in reality (that males can't be women) and standing up for women's rights. A man (Zuby) got suspended for simply saying 'dude' to someone. People get their accounts deleted for 'misgendering' people.

Twitter is already, hardly a bastion of free speech.

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Post by bilbo0s »

Ididntdothis wrote: post #235

I feel like we are slowly reaching the state the movie “Idiocracy” describes. I feel very torn about this. On the one hand I don’t think we should leave it up to companies like Twitter to censor things. On the other hand I find it hard to believe that the president is constantly claiming things without any evidence backing up. It started with the claims of millions of illegal voters in 2016 and the commission they st…

What's sad is that the movie was meant as a joke. (I think?)

And here we are? How did this happen?

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

Arubis wrote: post #211

For those missing the context, Twitter didn’t actually remove or censor anything; they added a small call-out next to a politically motivated tweet. Trump responded in an aggressive manner that can be perceived as threatening. That’s one discussion, and one I’m not currently capable of engaging in rationally. The other discussion is whether Twitter did right in this case. Rather than tell Twitter they’re out of place…

It is deeply satisfying to watch politicians get fact checked, especially when this reaffirms our world view. It's simply another tool in the toolkit for social media platforms to get us involved. To wield this more effectively to maximize engagement --which is an unsurprising move for social media companies, given their profit incentive to maximize ads-- the companies could choose to show individual fact-checks from a user's opposing political party only. I agree that fact checks don't change people's opinions, because people do not care if their world view is based in lies or reality, all that's important to the average social media consumer is the affirmation.
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