About bloody time twitter.
Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms
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Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms
#132I think this is going to be a discussion thread that is almost inevitably going to be a shitshow, but anyway: There are people who advocate the idea that private companies should be compelled to distribute hate speech, dangerously factually incorrect information and harassment under the concept that free speech is should be applied universally rather than just to government. I don't agree, I think it's a vast over-re…
> dangerously factually incorrect information
Here's the problem. Who is doing the fact checking? Who fact checks the fact checkers?
The world isn't black and white. State press releases are not facts. There is no authority that is the arbitrator of truth.
Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms
#133There's an unsolved conundrum I haven't heard mentioned yet.
After the 2016 election, there was a thought that too much false information is spreading on social media. This happens in every country and across every form of communication - but social media platforms seem particularly worrysome (and is particularly bad with Whatsapp forwards in some Asian countries).
So what should the social media companies do? Censor people? Disallow certain messages (like they do with terrorism related posts)?
They settled on just putting in fact check links with certain posts. Trust in the fact deciding institution will of course be difficult to settle. No one wants a ministry of truth (or the private alternative).
So the question remains - do you, or how do you lessen the spread of misinformation?
Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms
#134"Republicans feel that Social Media Platforms totally silence conservatives voices" Reddit is the best example of that. I don't want to defend him but look at every single news and politics related sub from /r/news, /r/worldnews, /r/politics etc. But that happens here too. Honestly I blame the upvote downvote system more. Reddit and HN are both really wrong with it
Reddit literally censors the actual Donald Trump campaign subreddit: it's hidden behind a scary warning screen and demonetized https://old.reddit.com/r/The_Donald . Hilarious. They don't even pretend to be unbiased or to care about their userbase that's equally on both sides of the political spectrum.
I don't believe the Donald Trump campaign has officially recognized that subreddit as being a part of their campaign...
but they also did the same quarantine to r/Chapo_Traphouse, a leftist podcast subreddit, so I'm not sure why you think it's not equal. Did you not know about Chapo being quarantined?
Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms
#135For the most part, I support platform neutrality. I don't agree with all the Google censorship of misinformation and "misinformation" on their platforms. I think Facebook should have less evil algorithms (it seems designed to encourage polarization), but I wouldn't want censorship or commentary their either. This case is an exception. Twitter drew a line in the sand. It is in exactly the right place. The PoTUS is thr…
The internet itself needs to be the platform that is neutral, and then allowing the freedom of people to have private corporations - "digital land" they own - and can therefore moderate how they choose to govern, thereby giving individuals the freedom to decide who they use, give their attention to, and support financially.
There are separate issues like economies of scale that don't allow a completely level playing field - however a monthly UBI where part of it is required to be allocated to be used for digital services (e.g. pay for Facebook vs. being bombarded by manipulative ads) would allow everyone to afford costs of bandwidth-CPU usage etc to take that burden off of private companies and would level the playing field.
Similarly these massive platforms like Facebook wouldn't have grown to their scale if people's data and networks were completely mobile with no friction, therefore it would be a competitive battle based on governance and not merely difficulty, laziness, leading to strong defensible network effects.
Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms
#136The head of integrity has unabashedly showcased his strong political bias on Twitter, and I suspect things will begin going poorly for either him or Twitter shortly.
twitter is a private organization. Regulating the speech of private organizations is a dangerous slope to be on.
As a hill to die on though, it's certainly revealing!
Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms
#137The comments here are surprising, to say the least. I just ask that some of you actually take a step back and realize what you're defending here.
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Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms
#138The head of integrity has unabashedly showcased his strong political bias on Twitter, and I suspect things will begin going poorly for either him or Twitter shortly.
lol what, he is biased for pointing out misinformation from a prominent public figure, after years of Twitter being criticised for allowing false information to proliferate?
No no, he is biased from his own Twitter history. It is clear he despises Trump and conservatives more generally. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I would certainly pause to consider the ramifications of this individual being the source of truthiness for Twitter b
Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms
#139"Republicans feel that Social Media Platforms totally silence conservatives voices" Reddit is the best example of that. I don't want to defend him but look at every single news and politics related sub from /r/news, /r/worldnews, /r/politics etc. But that happens here too. Honestly I blame the upvote downvote system more. Reddit and HN are both really wrong with it
Reddit literally censors the actual Donald Trump campaign subreddit: it's hidden behind a scary warning screen and demonetized https://old.reddit.com/r/The_Donald . Hilarious. They don't even pretend to be unbiased or to care about their userbase that's equally on both sides of the political spectrum.
They had to quarantine that sub because of a tidal wave of pro-shooting-cops posts whenever a bunch of Oregonian Republicans skipped town to hide in the woods with paramilitaries.
Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms
#140> Public Service Announcement: The Right to Free Speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say. It doesn't mean that anyone else has to listen to your bullshit or host you while you share it.
> The 1st Amendment doesn't shield you from criticism or consequences.
> If you're yelled at, boycotted, have your show cancelled, or get banned from an internet community, your free speech rights aren't being violated. It's just that the people listening to you think you're an asshole, and they're showing you the door.