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Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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Post by qubex »

2019-nCoV wrote: post #28
qubex wrote: post #22

I’m an outsider (not American, don’t live in America) so I’m almost not entitled to have an opinion on the matter, but it always strikes me as fairly odd when people of one persuasion or another rail against the ‘bias’ that they perceive against them in one circumstance or another (including media coverage). Of course people see bias against them. It’s classical confirmation bias: every time something goes their way,…

He's the only one being fact checked. And they chose CNN (most antithetical news source) to "debunk" his claims. https://twitter.com/i/events/1265330601034256384

You mean ‘unethical’? ‘Antithetical’ means “opposed to”.

Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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Post by thebouv »

Traster wrote: post #36

I think this is going to be a discussion thread that is almost inevitably going to be a shitshow, but anyway: There are people who advocate the idea that private companies should be compelled to distribute hate speech, dangerously factually incorrect information and harassment under the concept that free speech is should be applied universally rather than just to government. I don't agree, I think it's a vast over-re…

They will never understand your point.

Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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Post by thebouv »

qubex wrote: post #41
2019-nCoV wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's the only one being fact checked. And they chose CNN (most antithetical news source) to "debunk" his claims. https://twitter.com/i/events/1265330601034256384

You mean ‘unethical’? ‘Antithetical’ means “opposed to”.

It was a bigly word choice.

Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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Post by thebouv »

krapp wrote: post #33
thebouv wrote: post #25

So he just admitted that fact checking is suppressing conservative voices? That's awesome.

He's also admitted that voter suppression is the main reason Republicans even get elected[0]. God help us if we ever get a competent authoritarian into office who's cunning enough not to say the corrupt part out loud. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/30/trump-vot...

The corrupt part out loud is a distraction from the hidden corruption.

Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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Post by hobs »

orwin wrote: post #34

I'm really not outraged by that fact that twitter burst the Donald Trump info bubble, but the fact that they don't do the same thing when a member of an opposite party is also partial with the truth is a bad sign. Tbh they should have started with a controversial anti-trump statement before enforcing this in trump. Also they should not have called that "fact checking" or "debunking".

Why? Trump's absolutely the reason for the need here - politicians have always lied, but it would probably be more useful if twitter or anyone marked when he was telling the truth; you'd have a much smaller dataset to manage.

Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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Post by swebs »

sp332 wrote: post #40
orwin wrote: post #34

I'm really not outraged by that fact that twitter burst the Donald Trump info bubble, but the fact that they don't do the same thing when a member of an opposite party is also partial with the truth is a bad sign. Tbh they should have started with a controversial anti-trump statement before enforcing this in trump. Also they should not have called that "fact checking" or "debunking".

What's a better word?

"Rebuttal" would work better. Calling it a fact check implies "I'm right, you're wrong. The debate is over."

Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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Post by zozbot234 »

happytoexplain wrote: post #38
jameskilton wrote: post #26

Is no-one going to talk about how this is explicitly what "freedom of speech" means? That Trump is one of the few people that "freedom of speech" doesn't apply, because it's protection FROM HIM doing exactly this kind of thing. Twitter has every protected right to criticize the president (which they should have been doing a whole lot more of but that's a different discussion). That's the whole point of "freedom of sp…

(I've moved my comment to the intended parent comment): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23322672

Except that leftists and libs have their own sort of low-value hateful garbage. Which usually doesn't get censored or "fact-checked" on Twitter.

Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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Post by throwanem »

Traster wrote: post #36

I think this is going to be a discussion thread that is almost inevitably going to be a shitshow, but anyway: There are people who advocate the idea that private companies should be compelled to distribute hate speech, dangerously factually incorrect information and harassment under the concept that free speech is should be applied universally rather than just to government. I don't agree, I think it's a vast over-re…

Why should that be clear? Judging them by their actions rather than their words, it's quite plain that "free speech extremists" are no such thing, except inasmuch as it applies to them. They demand to be free to say whatever they like, and they demand everyone else be required to listen while they do it.

Re: Trump threatens to 'close' down social media platforms

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Post by thebouv »

wsatb wrote: post #29

The comments here are surprising, to say the least. I just ask that some of you actually take a step back and realize what you're defending here.

The comments defending the fact checking?

Or the comments defending it is okay for big government to step in and threaten to close a private company over fact checking?

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