macOS Catalina 10.15.5 • Hacker News Board

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by frankjr » Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:32 AM UTC

sheinsheish wrote: post #42

darkteflon wrote: post #5

> Major new releases of macOS are no longer hidden when using the softwareupdate(8) command with the --ignore flag. This change also affects macOS Mojave and macOS High Sierra after installing Security Update 2020-003. As a Mojave user, not happy about this.

Meaning? Can you elaborate a bit? I’ve just downgraded to Mojave on an iMac (fusion drive) primarily used for Logic Pro. Do you think Mojave is not getting updates anymore ?

The "ignored" flag caused macOS to NOT offer the update to the new major version every once in a while (a little popup in the top right corner). It also made the Software Update app report that there are no updates available.

After installing this update, the Update app reports the update to Catalina even though I have ignored the update previously on this machine. This does not mean that Mojave is not getting any more updates, it's just that macOS will nag you to update (but you will still be able to dismiss it manually) without the option to tell it to stop.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by dthul » Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:34 AM UTC

Since the last Catalina update (10.15.4) Firefox is almost unusable for me, whereas it was buttery smooth before. There are constant multi-second freezes and when I switch tabs I often see a gray loading screen before the content shows up a few seconds later. Never saw that happen before. Maybe it's just a coincidence and has nothing to do with the Catalina update, but I am interested whether other people experience the same.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by asplake » Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:34 AM UTC

Last time I tried, it was not at all well documented how to upgrade to Catalina when your iMac's boot drive is 1) an external SSD and 2) not (yet) formatted to APFS. Giving it another try now, but unless it suddenly got a whole lot easier I'll probably be passing again.

Have it on my 2016 and 2019 Airs though, no issues.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by 72deluxe » Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:37 AM UTC

dthul wrote: post #52

Since the last Catalina update (10.15.4) Firefox is almost unusable for me, whereas it was buttery smooth before. There are constant multi-second freezes and when I switch tabs I often see a gray loading screen before the content shows up a few seconds later. Never saw that happen before. Maybe it's just a coincidence and has nothing to do with the Catalina update, but I am interested whether other people experience…

Have you tried profiling it in Instruments to see what Firefox is doing?

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by 72deluxe » Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:43 AM UTC

albertzeyer wrote: post #37

I'm still on High Sierra... I wonder if there are really good reasons to upgrade to Mojave? (I only know about disadvantages about upgrading to Catalina.)

I'm on High Sierra on one Mac and Mojave on another.

Other than APFS, I cannot see any real differences in usability, other than opening quickview and then pressing shift and up to go to the previous file in a list (so you could look over many photographs and select them so as to choose which ones to delete) is now busted in Mojave and will only show the first file selected, making quickview now useless.

In High Sierra and prior (back to Snow Leopard at least?) this would work and show you the preview of the most recently highlighted item, so in a selection of 20 items, if you shift-up select item 21 you see 21. Now you only see item 1 all the time. It's a great annoyance.

So no I cannot think of a reason to upgrade.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by 72deluxe » Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:44 AM UTC

dochtman wrote: post #12

Software Update isn't showing me 10.15.5 yet. Others? On my 2019 16" I've definitely noticed that Zoom calls slow stuff down by a lot. Would be great if that gets fixed here.

Why would a single application's behaviour get "fixed" by an OS update?? Isn't the issue with Zoom?

Have you looked in Activity Monitor or Instruments to see what Zoom is doing to see why the machine gets sluggish?

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by simonklitj » Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:46 AM UTC

darkteflon wrote: post #5

> Major new releases of macOS are no longer hidden when using the softwareupdate(8) command with the --ignore flag. This change also affects macOS Mojave and macOS High Sierra after installing Security Update 2020-003. As a Mojave user, not happy about this.

I do not understand why they did this, and I say that as a Catalina user. Jeff Johnson seems to have some thoughts (and a sort-of solution) on it, though: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/software-update.html

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by 72deluxe » Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:47 AM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #9

Security content: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211170

Thanks, that's quite a lot of fixes.

Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, May 27, 2020, 9:51 AM UTC

jannes wrote: post #44

kstenerud wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems strange that they don't put code in to repeatedly drain the battery to 90% and then charge it again when plugged in, if that were the case.

The happy range for a modern battery is 20-80%. The bottom and top 20% are what's causing the wear, so merely staying between 90% and 100% won't do you any good.

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Re: macOS Catalina 10.15.5

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Post by raihansaputra » Wed, May 27, 2020, 10:06 AM UTC

Operyl wrote: post #33

Hamuko wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where are you getting 50+ GB console updates?

I think they’re referring to games. A good example? CoD Modern Warfare (the recent one) _always_ seems to have 50GB updates. It is rather annoying, even with fast internet.

Usually it's around 30GB. I play on PC and have to remind all of my party to update the night before. Each update seems to only come with small changes, and the total game size only increases by ~5GB usually. So they're either recompressing previous assets or changing stuff that can't be patched in along with new content. These updates usually happens every week/every other week. It's insane. I think all of the previous CoD:MW titles combined isn't as big as this one alone.