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China’s Communist Party and Its American Media Enablers

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Re: China’s Communist Party and Its American Media Enablers

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #23

The premise of this article is that the US is the victim of Chinese incompetency. The opening sentence more or less tries to state that as a fact. Basically, the authors are parroting Trump here. The reality is that Wuhan has been open for business again for two months or so after China dealt swiftly and efficiently with the pandemic while the US was still in denial about having a crisis while at the same time experi…

especially as one of the things pretty much everyone expects from a competent government is to not allow themselves to be tricked by evil foreigners.

People may disagree about how much power the government should exert over internal processes of the country, but protecting the country from evil foreigners is pretty much job 1 in most theories of governance.

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Post by bildung »

jimmaswell wrote: post #38
nxc18 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, there’s lots of bad on both sides. Here in the US we have crimes like Driving While Black. There was just a high profile execution the other day that made headlines, but most fly under the radar. We also just killed 100,000 people, minimum, through deliberate incompetence, so there’s that. Technically it’s the past, but in practical terms it’s the present. I’ll remind you that Tiananmen Square was quite a while…

> people in the US kind of have them sometimes, assuming they’re the right color or have enough money Complete hyperbole. Squint as hard as you can but the poorest minority in America is still better off than almost anyone in China. Yes we have a racial profiling problem but on the whole we have our rights much more than "kind of sometimes." Yeah, we have an incompetent administration this time around. At least we ha…

> At least we have real elections with more than one real candidate.

For some definition of "real elections" - the voting suppression techniques employed in the US are study material in politics courses in other democracies.

* gerrymandering

* not allowing for remote votes by letter

* having votes on days that are not free for working people - this is interesting because many other democracies used that to discourage working class people to vote, e.g. Germany in the late 19th century. But most countries now mandate that votes have to fall on either sundays or national holidays.

* (Edit:) Felony disenfranchisement - this in combination with the war on drugs is a very effective way to strip voting rights from minorities, e.g. this isn't even visible in voting turnout comparisons between countries.

And the techniques work: The US has one of the lowest voting participation rates of all OECD countries.

Re: China’s Communist Party and Its American Media Enablers

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Post by airocker »

airocker wrote: post #9

Now I know why Jin Yang is this adorable and Dinesh Chugtai is Pakistani.

Why the downvotes? If Dinesh Chugtai was Indian, how would the Chinese audience take it? By the name he sounds Indian. It's a business decision but it is what it is! I just started watching the show and love it btw.

Re: China’s Communist Party and Its American Media Enablers

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Post by dgzl »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #23

The premise of this article is that the US is the victim of Chinese incompetency. The opening sentence more or less tries to state that as a fact. Basically, the authors are parroting Trump here. The reality is that Wuhan has been open for business again for two months or so after China dealt swiftly and efficiently with the pandemic while the US was still in denial about having a crisis while at the same time experi…

Yes unfortunately Americans have rights and our federal government doesn't have authority to micro-manage our life like a Sim game. So sad.

Re: China’s Communist Party and Its American Media Enablers

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Post by 082349872349872 »

CountSessine wrote: post #11
aebtebeten wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a capitalist in a third world country, it seems like in principle a bit of competition ought to be good for both the 2nd and 1st largest economies. Remember the Avis "we try harder" campaign?

Except this isn’t commercial competition - it’s a competition in values and the role of the state in people’s lives. It’s Enlightenment values vs thinly disguised fascism. It’s a competition, alright - just be careful which side you’re fighting for.

Thankfully there are almost two hundred sides from which to choose. Il faut de tout pour faire un monde. Nie mój cyrk, nie moje malpy.

Re: China’s Communist Party and Its American Media Enablers

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Post by ForHackernews »

dgzl wrote: post #44
jillesvangurp wrote: post #23

The premise of this article is that the US is the victim of Chinese incompetency. The opening sentence more or less tries to state that as a fact. Basically, the authors are parroting Trump here. The reality is that Wuhan has been open for business again for two months or so after China dealt swiftly and efficiently with the pandemic while the US was still in denial about having a crisis while at the same time experi…

Yes unfortunately Americans have rights and our federal government doesn't have authority to micro-manage our life like a Sim game. So sad.

This is really pathetic. Is this how Americans actually think? You just love freedom too much to have a competent government?

Good thing you're not like those authoritarian hellholes of New Zealand, Australia and South Korea.

Re: China’s Communist Party and Its American Media Enablers

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Post by dgzl »

ForHackernews wrote: post #46
dgzl wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes unfortunately Americans have rights and our federal government doesn't have authority to micro-manage our life like a Sim game. So sad.

This is really pathetic. Is this how Americans actually think? You just love freedom too much to have a competent government? Good thing you're not like those authoritarian hellholes of New Zealand, Australia and South Korea.

I love freedom more than most things but our government being incompetent isn't really related. This is clearly a States issue.

Yes and thank goodness, I would hate living in oppressive Australia.

Re: China’s Communist Party and Its American Media Enablers

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Post by dntbnmpls »

Barrin92 wrote: post #2

The article has a very strong "throw enough sh__ and see how much of it sticks" tone to it. Mark Zuckerberg asking Xi for a baby name or American entertainment producers trying to play friendly with the Chinese market isn't really 'enabling the communist party' in any meaningful sense of the word. And Chinese media replaying some CNN clip isn't really evidence of anything either given that you can take everything out…

> The article has a very strong "throw enough sh__ and see how much of it sticks" tone to it.

It's intpolicydigest. What did you expect? What you don't know what intpolicydigest is? Yeah me either.

But the article is just the rehash of the same propaganda you see all over social media and "news" sites like foxnews, breitbart, etc.

That china has some pull in media due to its potential lucrative market isn't news. But the idea that they have enablers is laughable. If they had enablers, we wouldn't have had nonstop propaganda about ughyurs, organs, coronavirus, etc for months on end. Israel, Saudi Arabia and britain have enablers in our media. China is on the outside looking in. But I have a sneaking suspicions intpolicydigest isn't going to run hitpieces on israel or saudi arabia.

Speaking of enablers, I would love to see who the enablers of "intpolicydigest" are.

Re: China’s Communist Party and Its American Media Enablers

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Post by Gibbon1 »

ForHackernews wrote: post #46
dgzl wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes unfortunately Americans have rights and our federal government doesn't have authority to micro-manage our life like a Sim game. So sad.

This is really pathetic. Is this how Americans actually think? You just love freedom too much to have a competent government? Good thing you're not like those authoritarian hellholes of New Zealand, Australia and South Korea.

Yep people like that are who the rest of us are being held hostage too.

Re: China’s Communist Party and Its American Media Enablers

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Post by willis936 »

airocker wrote: post #43
airocker wrote: post #9

Now I know why Jin Yang is this adorable and Dinesh Chugtai is Pakistani.

Why the downvotes? If Dinesh Chugtai was Indian, how would the Chinese audience take it? By the name he sounds Indian. It's a business decision but it is what it is! I just started watching the show and love it btw.

If we assume the character was modified to fit the actor who was chosen for the role, then why change him from Pakistani to Indian? Dinesh’s actor, Kumail Nanjiani, even made a popular (and good) movie related to Pakistani culture in contemporary times: The Big Sick.

It’s a bit of a stretch to think that the show creators chose Kumail because he was Pakistani rather than Indian. He’s a talented comedian and, at the time, unknown. The showrunners were smart to pick him up.

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