Nikkei and CNN both reported that 50 employees stayed behind out of 800, with CNN quoting someone as saying that they should be considered heroes for doing so (couldn't agree more). If you click CNN's "breaking" on this topic, the article actually still says that. This is certainly a much more serious development. Edit: Anderson Cooper called this "hard to believe" on-air, and he's being careful about how to word it.…
That was yesterdays news. Those ~50 remaining all evacuated apparently. Also, the Wikipedia "Timeline of Fukushima nuclear accidents" has been reliable for the latest updates - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Fukushima_nucle...
Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant
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#92A reporter for the NYT in Japan says the workers aren't leaving -- http://twitter.com/#!/HirokoTabuchi/status/47882019102928896
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fair enough. Will be good to see a correction, then (like that'll happen) -- most of the big names in the media have already run with milli-. Takeaway for me from this: units for radiation exposure suck, and don't communicate well to the lay.
I'm willing to bet they will repeat that news conference on the hour (one minute) on NHK: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv EDIT: They indeed did so, but shortened and dumbed it down with only 2 figures being provided by 'WLJG'--2.3 and 6.4 mSv 'near the plant', with the latter being the peak at the time of 'leak.'
http://www.tepco.co.jp/tepconews/index-j.html
Here are the latest ones for Fukushima-daiichi:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/cc/press/betu11_j/images/110316c.pdf
The columns are, in order, date, time, location (often 正門, the main gate), gamma rays, neutron radiation, wind direction, wind speed. The latest peak seems to be 10.85 mSv/hr at 12:30PM on the 16th, down to 2.5 mSv/hr less than one hour later.
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#94What the Russians did at Chernobyl was they asked the army for volunteers fully informing the soldiers that it could be a suicide mission. They ended up getting more volunteers than they needed.
I was a small kid at the time, but I have heard a family story a few times how my father stayed out of work and home not to be included into the list of "volunteers".
There were people asking for him at work. The reasons for choosing him? He was an engineer and young enough.
He got notified by a coworker and got himself a certificate from a doctor to stay out of work.
A lot of other young guys didn't get a warning in advance and now suffer the illnesses they got from "volunteering".
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#95I'm having a hard time reconciling patio11's article with more recent reports of people walking 60km to get home, all food being gone from all stores, people living in Apple stores, and the government ordering a 30km evacuation zone around nuclear power plants. Maybe his point was "it could have been a lot worse", but I read it more like "everything went as planned and life went on without missing more than a few bea…
patio11 is undoubtedly correct that 'Japanese does not have a word for excessive preparation'. But no matter how excessively prepared for a 7.0 or a 7.5, it may not be possible to prepare for the utter destruction of a 9.0 followed immediately by a tsunami.
This all came up from a joke, we were watching the news broadcasts, and my friend said 'you know there is no looting in Japan' and I said 'that is because they don't have a word for it'. I ended up looking it up, and it seems true - can you confirm?
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#96What the Russians did at Chernobyl was they asked the army for volunteers fully informing the soldiers that it could be a suicide mission. They ended up getting more volunteers than they needed.
Nobody volunteered, this was soviet russia. The 'bio-robots'[1] were all culled from reservist regiments and most of them were absolutely scarred shit of going in and cleaning up.
Even the miners who worked to re-support the foundation were never 'asked' - they were simply bought onto the site and dumped there.
The full time military units never went anywhere near the reactor - that was for the reservists. They needed the military units to keep everybody else inline.
As a person who's family survived eastern euro communism, I can tell you that your view of it is greatly, greatly skewed and straight out of what they wanted people to believe.
there was no 'please' or 'thank you' or 'yes' or 'no' - there was say nothing, or be missing.
checkout this excellent doco about the biorobots and the cleanup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vMTdSAm1w
[1] Why they were called biorobots is chilling. The roof of and surroundings of the reactor had to be cleaned up. They bought in robots, but they would break down due to the high radiation exposure. It is estimated that on the roof it only took 40 seconds of exposure to receive a lethal dose. When the robots broke down, the army response command bought in reservists who they dubbed the 'bio-robots'. These guys were given sheets of lead to stick to themselves to provide some protection, and then sent up to the roof holding a shovel in 1 minute intervals. Some of the bio-robots made 5 or more trips - there were almost 200,000 of them in total, and it is estimated that over 25,000 died right afterwards, and the majority are now disabled or dead. All of the official reports were downplayed and the incidents covered up until after the wall fell.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
That was yesterdays news. Those ~50 remaining all evacuated apparently. Also, the Wikipedia "Timeline of Fukushima nuclear accidents" has been reliable for the latest updates - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Fukushima_nucle...
As a total aside, I find it interesting that Wikipedia, which 5 years ago would never be considered a reliable source for a developing event such as this, is now (rightly) considered a good place to go to for up to the hour information.
One of the problems with most "regular" news reporting is that it's very context sensitive. It's a tiny diff of info that assumes that you have already applied all of the previous diffs. If you want to understand a situation well this process can be infuriating. Wikipedia however actually distills down all the info into a complete and coherent whole making it a far more useful overall source of information.
However, there are some caveats. Wikipedia isn't well optimized for breaking news, so the hiccups in the process can cause more problems there than for other articles. Case in point, the wiki article for the Sendai quake/tsunami had very early on listed the number of casualties at an astonishing 6 million.
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#98What the Russians did at Chernobyl was they asked the army for volunteers fully informing the soldiers that it could be a suicide mission. They ended up getting more volunteers than they needed.
Volunteers? In Soviet Russia? You are kidding me. I lived there (not in Russia, but it does not matter). I was a small kid at the time, but I have heard a family story a few times how my father stayed out of work and home not to be included into the list of "volunteers". There were people asking for him at work. The reasons for choosing him? He was an engineer and young enough. He got notified by a coworker and got h…
Apparently those guys were treated as heroes, got benefits like higher pensions and being able to go to the front of any line (cool!).
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
patio11 is undoubtedly correct that 'Japanese does not have a word for excessive preparation'. But no matter how excessively prepared for a 7.0 or a 7.5, it may not be possible to prepare for the utter destruction of a 9.0 followed immediately by a tsunami.
Is it true that there is no japanese word for 'looting'. This all came up from a joke, we were watching the news broadcasts, and my friend said 'you know there is no looting in Japan' and I said 'that is because they don't have a word for it'. I ended up looking it up, and it seems true - can you confirm?
Re: Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
patio11 is undoubtedly correct that 'Japanese does not have a word for excessive preparation'. But no matter how excessively prepared for a 7.0 or a 7.5, it may not be possible to prepare for the utter destruction of a 9.0 followed immediately by a tsunami.
Is it true that there is no japanese word for 'looting'. This all came up from a joke, we were watching the news broadcasts, and my friend said 'you know there is no looting in Japan' and I said 'that is because they don't have a word for it'. I ended up looking it up, and it seems true - can you confirm?
edit: link to definition - http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/je2/79721/m1u/%E7%95%A5%E5%...