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Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't that just mean Winnie-the-Pooh gets banned as well?

An arms race like that favours the trolls though. I do believe the answer to an overly snoopy surveillance state is to drown it in data.

In that case everybody ends up as a false positive in some subsystem with real consequences.

Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division

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The scary part is that there is a significant contingent of people in tech who believe Youtube is morally justified in doing this because it's a private platform, and therefore and not subject to human rights standards like freedom of speech. Want to criticize an abusive regime? Build your own Youtube clone!

Isn't that exactly what bitchute and other platforms are doing?

Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division

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The scary part is that there is a significant contingent of people in tech who believe Youtube is morally justified in doing this because it's a private platform, and therefore and not subject to human rights standards like freedom of speech. Want to criticize an abusive regime? Build your own Youtube clone!

I don't think you can say they're morally justified in doing this, just legally. We can/should use outrage and bad PR to get them to change how their platform works.

Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division

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It looks to me like another example of failed automatic comment moderation. But again, it will be interpreted as big tech kneeling to the CCP.

How could we do a test to determine which is the true cause?

Well, there's this thing called the 50 mao party, due to them being paid 50 mao cents for each propaganda comment they post on behalf of the CCP.

We should see if we can discuss that party on youtube, or if wu3 mao2 dang3 gets censored. According to the article, every mention of wu3 mao2 dang3 is being suppressed.

https://www.chinasmack.com/glossary#%E4%BA%94%E6%AF%9B%E5%85...

Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division

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Don't they realize that people will just generate euphemisms? Idiotic.

> Don't they realize that people will just generate euphemisms?

This still chills discourse. The cognitive load of staying on top of an accelerating treadmill of euphemisms shouldn’t be discounted.

Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division

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It looks to me like another example of failed automatic comment moderation. But again, it will be interpreted as big tech kneeling to the CCP.

How could we do a test to determine which is the true cause?

Youtube certainly doesn't have enough moderators to look at every comment, best they can do is have watch words/phrases that flag a comment either for automatic deletion/shadow deletion/human moderation.

Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division

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The scary part is that there is a significant contingent of people in tech who believe Youtube is morally justified in doing this because it's a private platform, and therefore and not subject to human rights standards like freedom of speech. Want to criticize an abusive regime? Build your own Youtube clone!

The problem as we've seen is that giving unlimited freedom of speech on these social platforms results in very bad things as state actors use it to incite social unrest. Of course, in protecting Europe and America's ability to remain safe democracies you also end up protecting China's ability to be a dictatorship. Keep in mind that western governments generally support China so you'd have a private company go against the government policies of the nation it is based in.

Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division

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The scary part is that there is a significant contingent of people in tech who believe Youtube is morally justified in doing this because it's a private platform, and therefore and not subject to human rights standards like freedom of speech. Want to criticize an abusive regime? Build your own Youtube clone!

Don't be evil meh. These are the people who desire to be billionaires, they really do have a devil may care attitude about it all.

Re: YouTube deleting Palmer Luckey’s comments about CCP’s Wumao division

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The scary part is that there is a significant contingent of people in tech who believe Youtube is morally justified in doing this because it's a private platform, and therefore and not subject to human rights standards like freedom of speech. Want to criticize an abusive regime? Build your own Youtube clone!

The problem as we've seen is that giving unlimited freedom of speech on these social platforms results in very bad things as state actors use it to incite social unrest. Of course, in protecting Europe and America's ability to remain safe democracies you also end up protecting China's ability to be a dictatorship. Keep in mind that western governments generally support China so you'd have a private company go against…

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