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AWS services explained in one line each

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AWS sounds like a good idea until you start calculating the cost of the setup with any kind of clustering and moderate data traffic.

The compute is really a negligible part and one that you can severely effect. Outbound bandwidth is the real killer, going at ~$90/TB

So you give them your data for free then you need to pay the ransom money to get it back?

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a bit tangential: I think a lot of AWS customers would actually benefit by hosting on their own machines in a data-center. The tools (and hardware) out there have become so good that there's minimal benefit to hosting on AWS for more than 4x the price. A lot of DCs also accept shipments so that even makes things easier. The trouble is that we've been conditioned, as an industry, not to think for ourselves or dare question certain accepted norms/practices. AWS/Azure/GCloud is great for some but I suspect it's for a much smaller subset that we want to accept.

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> Heck, at any given moment it's unexplainably hard to tell exactly which AWS services are you actually using, and being billed for. Did you actually look at the billing page? Here's a screenshot of my billing page: https://imgur.com/a/DQAxgRY It meticulously breaks out per-service costs across whatever dimension you want. "EC2-Other" is rolled up in the chart, but it's broken out by each individual item further down…

Isn’t that exactly what the person you replied to said? You’re showing what you’ve been charged for previously. That part works, at a certain level of detail. That doesn’t show what you are being charged for right now , nor does it help you predict what your total costs will be at the end of the month.

If you set up your infrastructure with CloudFormation (as you should), you can get a cost estimation of how much your solution would cost.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSCloudFormation/latest/UserGui...

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a bit tangential: I think a lot of AWS customers would actually benefit by hosting on their own machines in a data-center. The tools (and hardware) out there have become so good that there's minimal benefit to hosting on AWS for more than 4x the price. A lot of DCs also accept shipments so that even makes things easier. The trouble is that we've been conditioned, as an industry, not to think for ourselves or dare que…

That's what we (mid/small-sized company) with couple dozen machines. It is probably 10% the cost of AWS - but you do need to have at least one person that can handle the servers when/if there are issues.

That one person only needs to devote maybe 2-5% of their time to it (once the systems are setup), so it's still a net gain.

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Have you ever used AWS? There's a whole suite of tools they provide around pricing and budgeting. > It's quite a tour de force how Amazon have taken "separation of concerns", applied it to web services and used it to create complex and difficult to understand or predict pricing to print money. Is applying separation of concerns to web services really that bad? Look, if you're a small company with a simple product, yo…

From where I stand as someone who isn't using Amazon figuring out what my costs will be is difficult, impossible and would require wasting money on various tests. With something like digitalocean my costs are fixed. I might have misjudged how much I need but can scale up easily or down (with effort). Will Amazon offer fixed pricing? Does Amazom offer fixed pricing?

Yes.

https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/

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Isn’t that exactly what the person you replied to said? You’re showing what you’ve been charged for previously. That part works, at a certain level of detail. That doesn’t show what you are being charged for right now , nor does it help you predict what your total costs will be at the end of the month.

You bring up a good point - it would be a good idea for AWS to set some sensible max budget defaults for new accounts to prevent surprises. Since they don't, if you are literally so concerned with your current costs for this month, you can set a budget and alerts for whatever you want, so that you don't exceed some cost. Also, they show you your current cost for this month, up until the moment, as well as a daily bre…

The couple of AWS acquaintances I asked about this said that this kind of feature doesn't exist because:

- There's almost no demand for it from the majority of their customers.

- Billing code is a big, scary, tangled mess and also happens to be the one area where you really can't afford to introduce bugs and make mistakes, so meaningful change is already exceptionally difficult.

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Yes.. some of them I have absolutely no clue on what it does. They might serve some edgecase specific for that domain. There are a few services in preview which I cannot see for myself what it does. I will try to update and correct services as soon as I have more info (or somebody can provide it to me)

Hey, dev here for Robomaker. Most relevant line from our overview page is probably "AWS RoboMaker is the most complete cloud solution for robotic developers to simulate, test and securely deploy robotic applications at scale." The main feature is the on-demand cloud hosted version of the robotics simulator gazebo ( http://gazebosim.org/ ) that allows you to run your robot's code in a 3d physics environment. You can t…

THanks.. will update this
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