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Re: Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant

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Post by jedsmith »

pero wrote: post #60
jedsmith wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I waited a while to get a feel from multiple media outlets before replying to you, and CNN aired the video of the remarks in question in that time...based upon waiting, it would appear that the headline is in fact true. BBC, AP, and CNN have all reported that operations have been suspended due to high radiation levels, as high as 1,000 mSv at their peak, which is enough to justify complete evacuation as I understand…

That was 600-800 uSv .

Watch the video. He specifically said milli-Sievert.

Re: Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant

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Post by jrockway »

ck2 wrote: post #57

So just out of curiosity, does GE have any liability since they built all those reactors? Or does "earthquake" get them out of any responsibility? Any GE Mark I's on the west coast on the USA?

The reactors didn't fail; the site did. If the backup generators and power grid didn't fail, there wouldn't have been any issue. It's well known that you can't just unplug a nuclear power plant and have it shut down safely.

Re: Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant

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Post by pero »

jedsmith wrote: post #61
pero wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was 600-800 uSv .

Watch the video. He specifically said milli-Sievert.

And then he was corrected by the dude in the white lab coat.

I however heard micro on my translation and was a little bit confused during the correcting.

Re: Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant

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Post by Klonoar »

cookiecaper wrote: post #55
patio11 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outside of the immediate disaster zones, I think "everything went as planned and life went on without missing more than a few beats" is substantially accurate. The context for my post was originally I got literally in excess of a hundred people who thought I might be dead trying to reach me because of the reporting, despite me being several hundred miles away. I have been talking to news reporters the last few days (…

My impression is simply that people don't know Japanese geography, which isn't all together too surprising. There's no reason a person should know the geography of Japan any better than the geography of Uzbekistan if he or she doesn't have a specific tie to either country. They just hear "earthquake in Japan" and ask the people who live in Japan if they're doing alright. My brother lives in Auckland. We had a lot of…

It's actually understandable to be so haughty, at least after you've had roughly a hundred people do so. As someone who's here right now, I can tell you we've got enough on our minds that, while we certainly get that people are concerned with us, proper information in the hands of others would make life infinitely easier on our side.

Re: Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant

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Post by jrockway »

cookiecaper wrote: post #55
patio11 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outside of the immediate disaster zones, I think "everything went as planned and life went on without missing more than a few beats" is substantially accurate. The context for my post was originally I got literally in excess of a hundred people who thought I might be dead trying to reach me because of the reporting, despite me being several hundred miles away. I have been talking to news reporters the last few days (…

My impression is simply that people don't know Japanese geography, which isn't all together too surprising. There's no reason a person should know the geography of Japan any better than the geography of Uzbekistan if he or she doesn't have a specific tie to either country. They just hear "earthquake in Japan" and ask the people who live in Japan if they're doing alright. My brother lives in Auckland. We had a lot of…

There's no reason a person should know the geography of Japan any better than the geography of Uzbekistan if he or she doesn't have a specific tie to either country.

I'm going to agree here. I went to high school in Tokyo and I hadn't heard of Gifu until patio11 mentioned it. This is not really a problem due to the availability of these things called "maps", however.

Re: Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant

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Post by jedsmith »

pero wrote: post #63
jedsmith wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watch the video. He specifically said milli-Sievert.

And then he was corrected by the dude in the white lab coat. I however heard micro on my translation and was a little bit confused during the correcting.

It might be where they're measuring. He went on to indicate that at the gate, the measurements had just reached the milli- level; perhaps the exorbitantly high figure is very close to the core?

Re: Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant

#67

Post by pero »

jedsmith wrote: post #66
pero wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then he was corrected by the dude in the white lab coat. I however heard micro on my translation and was a little bit confused during the correcting.

It might be where they're measuring. He went on to indicate that at the gate, the measurements had just reached the milli- level; perhaps the exorbitantly high figure is very close to the core?

I think the figures that were thrown around in that press conference--either by Edano or 'white lab jacket guy'--varied by location however the translator had my head spinning and I couldn't deduce what's what.

I'm pretty certain that anytime "600 to 800" was mentioned, it was supposed to be in uSv, and that those measurements were taken at the plant's gates.

Re: Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant

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Post by [deleted] »

afterburner wrote: post #47
ay wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This link that you posted seems to be sending a lot of misinformation, though the "return to work" part is correct. Radiation levels in Tokyo are near-normal as far as I can see on the online counters. I'm collecting the factual links that do not contain the hysteria, on a post on my blog. No, there is no adsense on that blog. http://bnpcs.blogspot.com/2011/03/links-about-situation-in-j...

It's quite possible, I have no idea who's updating it, and NHK TV isn't confirming it (yet?).

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Re: Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant

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Post by jedsmith »

pero wrote: post #67
jedsmith wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might be where they're measuring. He went on to indicate that at the gate, the measurements had just reached the milli- level; perhaps the exorbitantly high figure is very close to the core?

I think the figures that were thrown around in that press conference--either by Edano or 'white lab jacket guy'--varied by location however the translator had my head spinning and I couldn't deduce what's what. I'm pretty certain that anytime "600 to 800" was mentioned, it was supposed to be in uSv, and that those measurements were taken at the plant's gates.

Fair enough. Will be good to see a correction, then (like that'll happen) -- most of the big names in the media have already run with milli-.

Takeaway for me from this: units for radiation exposure suck, and don't communicate well to the lay.

Re: Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant

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Post by patio11 »

jrockway wrote: post #65
cookiecaper wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My impression is simply that people don't know Japanese geography, which isn't all together too surprising. There's no reason a person should know the geography of Japan any better than the geography of Uzbekistan if he or she doesn't have a specific tie to either country. They just hear "earthquake in Japan" and ask the people who live in Japan if they're doing alright. My brother lives in Auckland. We had a lot of…

There's no reason a person should know the geography of Japan any better than the geography of Uzbekistan if he or she doesn't have a specific tie to either country. I'm going to agree here. I went to high school in Tokyo and I hadn't heard of Gifu until patio11 mentioned it. This is not really a problem due to the availability of these things called "maps", however.

This is not really a problem due to the availability of these things called "maps", however

Oh, how I wish this were the case. (The lady from the New York Times excepted, this has been a repeated issue when speaking with reporters. I have been falling back to my "If Japan were the United States..." explanation quite a lot.)

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