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Re: I bought netflix.soy

#181

Post by wrycoder »

One winter day, my wife looked down the coast and noticed that the bell buoy that marked the entrance to Plum Island Sound was lying on the beach. This thing is enormous, about 30 ft long. We drove down and walked around it with some other curious people. Took some pictures.

She thought that we ought to report it. I told her that many people would already have done that. A couple of days went by and there didn’t seem to be any action.

So we finally called the Coast Guard. They said, “Wow, we didn’t know that, thanks very much!”

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#182

Post by tzs »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #145
gpanders wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For anyone unfamiliar, this is a clever riff on a classic economics joke about the Efficient Market Hypothesis [1]. "Two economists are walking down the street and one of them notices what appears to be a $20 bill (or a $100 bill—the monetary amounts vary) on the sidewalk. “It’s not a real $20 bill,” the other economist declares. “If it were a real $20 bill, someone would have picked it up off the sidewalk already.”…

Except the $20 bill in this case is a $-10 bill (or whatever the domain name costs), as there is no profit to be made by registering a top company's trademark as a domain name.

> $-10 bill (or whatever the domain name costs)

For the curious, .soy seems to be one of the more expensive TLDs. It's $34.54 at Gandhi, $25.98 at Namecheap, $35.99 at Network Solutions, and $20 at Goggle. (I also tried at Bluehost, HostGator, and Godaddy, but none of them seem to even offer .soy).

It looks like netflix.soy was registered via Google, so that would be a $-20 bill.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#183

Post by sneak »

wrycoder wrote: post #181

One winter day, my wife looked down the coast and noticed that the bell buoy that marked the entrance to Plum Island Sound was lying on the beach. This thing is enormous, about 30 ft long. We drove down and walked around it with some other curious people. Took some pictures. She thought that we ought to report it. I told her that many people would already have done that. A couple of days went by and there didn’t seem…

The validity of this effect has been called into question, but for a long time, this was the "standard response" to situations like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#184

Post by kevindong »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #160
CydeWeys wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UDRP typically rules in favor of the holder of the unambiguous trademark in these kinds of cases. As an example, "Exxon Mobil" refers unambiguously to a single entity only, and has no other possible uses, so anyone registering exxonmobil.{anything} would lose if the company came after them. No one else has any right to that trademark, and ICANN enforces trademark rights on domains. If the trademark already existed wh…

What about .sucks? Couldn’t one claim free speech? https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerkay/2015/06/29/saga-of-suc...

Free speech is a right issued by governments to the people.

It is not a valid concept between two private parties.

https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/08/technology/google-workplace...

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#185

Post by echelon »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #164
echelon wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of the gTLDs charge exorbitant yearly fees for "premium" domains as a means of recouping costs. I pay $300/yr for {myFirstName}.dev. It's extortion, and I might drop it. With many of the common domain suffixes now becoming TLDs, branding seems much more difficult since you have to buy multiple domains. Is it audiotech.com? audio.tech? tech.audio? Who knows. I don't think that I would call this better. My opinion…

> I pay $300/yr for {myFirstName}.dev. It's extortion, and I might drop it. From where? Google? I just paid $12/yr for a .dev domain on Google Domains.

Yes, from Google Domains. Some of their domains are "premium".

Here's an unregistered one. "red.dev" is $720/yr from Google:

https://domains.google.com/m/registrar/search?searchTerm=red...

"god.dev" is cheaper at $180/yr:

https://domains.google.com/m/registrar/search?searchTerm=god...

And, of course asdfasdf.dev is only $12/yr:

https://domains.google.com/m/registrar/search?searchTerm=asd...

Most of the {firstname}.dev domains are in the $300/yr range, but it's uneven. Some names cost more or less than others. I remember seeing one as $1000/yr, but I can't remember what it was.

I double checked my cost. "$180 plus tax"/yr. From Google.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#186

Post by Forgeties79 »

sneak wrote: post #183
wrycoder wrote: post #181

One winter day, my wife looked down the coast and noticed that the bell buoy that marked the entrance to Plum Island Sound was lying on the beach. This thing is enormous, about 30 ft long. We drove down and walked around it with some other curious people. Took some pictures. She thought that we ought to report it. I told her that many people would already have done that. A couple of days went by and there didn’t seem…

The validity of this effect has been called into question, but for a long time, this was the "standard response" to situations like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

Yeah the Kitty Genovese (sp) story is an example right? Wasn’t that proven to be a myth or something?

Re: I bought netflix.soy

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Post by throwaway373438 »

CydeWeys wrote: post #169
koheripbal wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it is an unwinnable case, there is a positive dollar amount to settling out of court.

No there isn't. Companies won't pay you money for having cybersquatted on their obvious trademark. You'll lose the domain flat out through UDRP. The best outcome that can happen to you if you find yourself in such a situation is that you relinquish the domain name for free and nothing further comes from it.

Arbitration through UDRP is expensive, both in terms of process costs and employee time. A reasonable company would probably pay more than registration costs to avoid it.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#188

Post by Forgeties79 »

aaronharnly wrote: post #152
quickthrower2 wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except the $20 bill in this case is a $-10 bill (or whatever the domain name costs), as there is no profit to be made by registering a top company's trademark as a domain name.

Ha exactly — like a briefcase with $1million on the sidewalk. No way I’m touching that!

I too don’t want Javier Bardem hunting me down.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#189

Post by Forgeties79 »

Gaelan wrote: post #144
Counterfactual wrote: post #136

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There's a bunch of good TLD's available every week on https://www.namebase.io/ for a lot less than ICANN charges. For example recently someone got the js/ TLD for about $19k in HNS. (compare that to ICANN's $200k application fee) Namebase is built on the Handshake protocol - a decentralized, permissionless naming protocol where every peer is validating and in charge of managing the root DNS naming zone with the goal…

So… these aren't accessible without specially configured DNS, right? Given that the point of domains is to let people get to your site, a TLD only accessible after reconfiguring your computer to use a little-known DNS competitor seems worth a hell of a lot less than $19,000.

Yeah...this basically ignores those totally minor perks like “SEO” and “people can actually find your site.” Unless I’m missing something here.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#190

Post by snowwrestler »

These sorts of “I found a name collision” blog posts often use the possibility of phishing to justify their implication of alarm.

I don’t really buy it, though. I mean, I know that phishing is a major problem, but I don’t buy that this discovery makes the problem of phishing any worse. There are an infinite number of ways to configure URLs to pass a glance test, which is the most you’ll get from most users.

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