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> As CEO, this is my fault. I made this decision. Effective immediately, we are canceling this feature. I'd love to know the dynamics behind such decision
“oh shit, the public is now aware of how broken my moral compass is.
let’s continue to frame this internally as a “PR” problem rather than address the difficult reality: a light being shined on our apathy toward our users and our willingness to ruthlessly sell people out until we get minted”
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Applying a marginal amount of business accumen: there's other ways to get from millions to billion(s). They don't have to further monetize engineers. There's companies looking for all sorts of talent, beyond software engineers, in fact 99% of hiring is for non-software engineering roles. You can't get blood from a stone, but you can expand your total addressable market.
It's too hard to scale and protect margins. If Triplebyte proves out a business model you'll get a bunch of Triplebyte for X competitors. For example, someone will start the equivalent of Triplebyte focused on DBAs another for Erlang devs, another for embedded, etc.
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I mean I deleted my account. They probably realized they're getting a ton of account deletions and went back on it.
He originally said they got around 2000 deletion requests since sending out the original message. That comment appears to be gone from this page now, but another commenter concurs with my recollection. It's hard to gauge significance without knowing a number of total users, but I imagine it is a relatively strong hypothesis that there is significant correlation between regular browsing of HN and having an account on…
I think you're running into the pagination problem: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
If you scroll to the bottom and click More you should find it. Edit: yes, it's there: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23304097.
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> My angel.co and LinkedIn are already public, why not Triplebyte too Because you opted in to creating those profiles and the information they contain, and made them public. You opted in .
It was wrong not to make it opt in but not deserving of the level of hate they’re getting for the decision. The big tech companies do things every day that are much more damaging to your privacy and they don’t send you an email telling you. LinkedIn’s spam marketing in the early days was downright scandalous. I’ve always found Triplebyte open and insightful and their response shows they’re receptive to feedback, whic…
The analogy with dating services that people were bringing up earlier was a good one. Sure, some people are in open relationships, which is fine, but if Tinder were to assume that everybody was OK with having that aspect of their personal life exposed in public, it would be a massive problem.
Nothing to see here. Ammon has tried a bold move to chase big money, used a few common tricks (release on Friday night, opt-out and other dark patterns), it didn't pan out and now he's doing damage control. When the dust settles, he'll give this idea another try. This is all from a corporate playbook, but it seems Ammon hasn't read the entire book. There's a chapter there that tells how to systematically manufacture…
I don't know Ammon, but I don't think he's chasing "big money". The best founders I know, when they make mistakes like this, aren't doing it for the money. They're doing it because they are trying to create the world they want to see exist, and that blinds them a bit. In this case, I genuinely believe Triplebyte just wanted to have a bigger impact on the hiring world, and try to fix it for engineers. Did they fuck up…
I see them as mission driven, this was a bad step but I trust that they're still focused on trying to fix a broken hiring system.
I am not an active Triplebyte user, but I have an account and followed the thread(s). This e-mail (which I also got) seems like a heartfelt apology. They fucked up, realized it and turned the ship around. They listened and that's what counts for me. They listened to the negative feedback and responded to it. Some comments around here are extremely negative of the whole situation. More negative than I think they deser…
It is too early to put trust in Triplebyte. The classic Silicon Valley playbook is to do something that crosses a boundary, get pushback, apologize, and later try again. Eventually it succeeds.
Examples:
- sharing all you financial transactions and passwords with a third party
- suppressing posts for reasons
- sharing private conversations with powerful parties
Wait and let Triplebyte prove itself with real actions instead of just talk.
Good on ya Ammon!
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> This e-mail (which I also got) seems like a heartfelt apology. Even if it is heartfelt, I'd argue that if no alarm bells went off internally when they were discussing this feature, they are not the group of people to entrust with information such as this.
Given the prevalence of comments like this, I wonder why any company would ever bother offering an apology or retraction. As soon as a company does something that a chunk of people on the internet don’t agree with, there’s really no way out. They’re going to get bad press regardless of whether they retract, whether they apologize, and whether they say they’re taking actions to avoid the sequence that led to the actio…
This isn't kinder garden, we're not here to educate those companies, they run a business, you mess up, you're out, we give the competitor a chance. That's how it works.
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The current position is "sorry for breaking your trust, please trust us". It's hard to find it compelling. > Given the prevalence of comments like this, I wonder why any company would ever bother offering an apology or retraction. To project my own opinion onto others: these comments are warranted because an apology has no actual value. The fact remains that Triplebytes can still do this if they wish to, and they are…
> The current position is "sorry for breaking your trust, please trust us". It's hard to find it compelling. Why is this a hard thing to do? It’s literally what everyone who ever messes something up is asking you to do. Just because someone once committed a broken build, doesn’t mean I’ll never again trust them with access. It’s argubly more like “sorry for being a moron, but I hear you. Please give us another chance…