Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

I bought netflix.soy

tinyprojects.dev

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 272 posts

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#21

Post by p4bl0 »

dheera wrote: post #10
saagarjha wrote: post #3

Interestingly, I recently saw a couple a couple of google.* domains available on Google Domains, including some reasonable-sounding ones: IIRC, google.tech (edit: google.page), google.business, and google.camp. Tried to purchase them but they instantly became unavailable the moment I tried to do so. The cynic in me thinks that Google has a special check for those and renews it themselves if someone tries… More genera…

Even better yet, it would be interesting if we just abandoned TLDs. There is no reason why http://google/ can't work, really, with a bunch of infrastructure changes.

I remember seeing a NIC that did this with their TLD. But I can't remember which one :/. I would love if someone finds it.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#22

Post by DangitBobby »

gruez wrote: post #17
smitop wrote: post #9

If these companies notice, they can file a UDRP ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Domain-Name_Dispute-Re... ) request, on the basis that the domains infringe their trademarks, and were registered and used in "bad faith".

>and were registered and used in "bad faith". How were they registered in bad faith? He's not extorting money from netfilx, nor is he trying to deceive people into thinking he's neflix.

What's he trying to do with it?

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#23

Post by kirubakaran »

saagarjha wrote: post #20
kirubakaran wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they instantly became unavailable the moment I tried to do so. The cynic in me thinks that Google has a special check for those and renews it themselves if someone tries My guess is that they were never available and there are doing a poor job of figuring out which domains are taken and which are not. I've been this in several other domain name search sites too, especially if there is no nameserver for a registered…

Clicking "purchase" on them must have kicked the system into fixing itself, then, because they stopped showing up as such after I did so.

I think so too, because that's when they do the (presumably resource intensive) call to actually attempt the registration and they can update their "most likely available" list with this definitive data.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#24

Post by cooper12 »

The whole framework arounds TLDs is very strange to me. One one hand, opening up all these gTLDs was supposed to alleviate problems with domain parking and name clashes (e.g. you could disambiguate your .blog from a .pizza restaurant). But all this did was shift the parking to other domains, some of which are ludicrously overpriced (anyone remember the .io hype?)

Secondly, regardless of where your site is hosted, you're also bound by the registrar's laws/restrictions (especially for ccTLDs), which doesn't make sense for something that is purely a routing mechanism that translates a name to an IP. It'd be fine if domain names were plentiful, but domain hacks[0] also make people use TLDs without regard to considering their territory or any implications.

The whole .org fiasco only proved further that this model with ICANN and for-profit registrars isn't tenable and a horrible fit for an open distributed internet. All these perverse incentives and political fuckery should not exist for something that is an essential part of a worldwide utility.

I'd love if HNers could share any promising alternatives to our current DNS system.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_hack

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#25

Post by interestica »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #5

gTLDs are nothing but a money play by ICANN and registrars and really make the internet a (slightly) more confusing and dangerous place. Within epsilon, all the money spent by companies on gTLDs is dead weight with no payoff in increased usability but only to prevent some naive user from being tricked. The advice I give my non-techie friends is avoid going to any business website that is not a “.com”

> The advice I give my non-techie friends is avoid going to any business website that is not a “.com”

You can't actually mean that? Country TLD? (Eg .CA) I'm actually pretty impressed by how the .CA registry (CIRA) has branded itself in Canada. There's even a bit more legitimacy for sites because it's clear they're operating in Canada (or have at least made an effort for Canadian representation).

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#26

Post by pmachinery »

saagarjha wrote: post #3

Interestingly, I recently saw a couple a couple of google.* domains available on Google Domains, including some reasonable-sounding ones: IIRC, google.tech (edit: google.page), google.business, and google.camp. Tried to purchase them but they instantly became unavailable the moment I tried to do so. The cynic in me thinks that Google has a special check for those and renews it themselves if someone tries… More genera…

There is no way you'd get a "google" domain under any extension but even if you register a domain with "google" + something else you're going to lose it in a UDRP anyway.

It's possible that google and other major brand names don't have to register every extension, the names are just reserved for them alone, should they want them.

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#27

Post by bald »

saagarjha wrote: post #3

Interestingly, I recently saw a couple a couple of google.* domains available on Google Domains, including some reasonable-sounding ones: IIRC, google.tech (edit: google.page), google.business, and google.camp. Tried to purchase them but they instantly became unavailable the moment I tried to do so. The cynic in me thinks that Google has a special check for those and renews it themselves if someone tries… More genera…

there is the Trademark Clearinghouse which actually deals with these cases (by either automatically registering the domain for the trademark holder, or notifying them immediately if the domain is registered so they can take semi-automated action) [1]

[1] https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#29

Post by [deleted] »

DangitBobby wrote: post #22
gruez wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>and were registered and used in "bad faith". How were they registered in bad faith? He's not extorting money from netfilx, nor is he trying to deceive people into thinking he's neflix.

What's he trying to do with it?

[deleted]

Re: I bought netflix.soy

#30

Post by saagarjha »

pmachinery wrote: post #26
saagarjha wrote: post #3

Interestingly, I recently saw a couple a couple of google.* domains available on Google Domains, including some reasonable-sounding ones: IIRC, google.tech (edit: google.page), google.business, and google.camp. Tried to purchase them but they instantly became unavailable the moment I tried to do so. The cynic in me thinks that Google has a special check for those and renews it themselves if someone tries… More genera…

There is no way you'd get a "google" domain under any extension but even if you register a domain with "google" + something else you're going to lose it in a UDRP anyway. It's possible that google and other major brand names don't have to register every extension, the names are just reserved for them alone, should they want them.

There was a dude a while back who registered google.com and gave it back when asked. I figured I might be able to do that and get a cool story to tell out of it.
Post reply on HN