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Org Mode – Organize Your Life in Plain Text

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Re: Org Mode – Organize Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by tkuraku »

I like the idea of Org Mode, but for me it is just a painful to use. Vscode with the "Markdown All in One" does everything I could possibly need. It is still plain text and it should be portable to any tool that can display markdown files. The biggest draw is the keyboard shortcuts are far less complicated and more ergonomic (though perhaps less powerful than emacs, but that is fine with me).

edit: Also interestingly Vscode feels much more cross platform for me. I have tried to get Emacs running on windows and it wasn't a good experience.

Re: Org Mode – Organize Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by mark_l_watson »

mr_spothawk wrote: post #124
mark_l_watson wrote: post #66

I surprised myself when I stopped using org-mode when I "retired" (ha!) March 2019. At my last on-site job, I had to juggle managing a small deep learning team, work on 100+ US patents, and all of my own technical work and research. Org-mode was perfect to keep everything organized. Now, I rely heavily on Apple Notes (this required discovering a little app that exports the notes for backup, and also realizing that I…

can you recommend any ways for me (a low-mid developer trying to improve my skills with e.g. tmux & mosh) to get access to the brains of mature/retiring expert level engineers? mostly i'm interested in learning these sorts of productivity patterns. unfortunately, i don't work closely with any developers. i took a job a couple years ago in order to apprentice under a linux guru, but unfortunately he left the company 2…

If you know what specific skill you want/need to pick up (e.g., "learn to use Mosh to effectively do development on remote servers") that can be a simple web search for tutorials. I guess that the real issue is discovering what skills you don't even know about.

Where ever you work, it is fair game to ask people there for advice.

Re: Org Mode – Organize Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by u801e »

tonyarkles wrote: post #52
sinkasapa wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose it is like saying: "Python: Write computer programs in plain text!" In my experience, one does actually just edit text files using org-mode. It is different than the Tasks sub-application of Thunderbird/Lightening, for instance.

Yeah, my first thought when I started reading your comment was “yeah, it’s a bit silly, but you can’t ‘grep’ Jira”. I’ve been a long time org user and am slowly starting to move bits of my workflow out of it to ease collaboration with the staff I’m planning to hire in the next couple months. I absolutely love Org and am not particularly happy about moving away from it, but... it seems like trying to use it in a colla…

> it seems like trying to use it in a collaborative way is not going to go well.

Could collaboration be done using a public git repository?

Re: Org Mode – Organize Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by girzel »

vendroo wrote: post #139
atgreen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you use any of the Emacs hosted mail readers, org-mode is tremendously useful for tracking actions/TODOs. I use it with GNUS and the org agenda mode is how I organize my work (enterprise sales). It was a game-changer for me.

I have been using Emacs/Orgmode for a year. Can you point me to a setup/configuration about your workflow? I am in enterprise sales too. Thanks much

Shameless plug: I wrote a package called Gnorb that is meant to tie Org and Gnus more closely together, precisely for this sort of project management. It's in the ELPA repository.

Re: Org Mode – Organize Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by ebertucc »

Syzygies wrote: post #90

Starting in 2005, I've been keeping dated text files in a Log folder, organized by year and month. Anytime I need digital "scrap paper" I make sure I keep it. If I need to save files, I open instead a dated log folder. There's a critical optimization problem here the young often get wrong. One needs to "Huffman code" the work put into organizing on entry, versus the work later in retrieving. For example, I save physi…

> It's the complete lack of organizational structure, other than date, that make my log files so useful.

A thread here about a week ago on bookmark management reinforced this idea for me.[1] When it comes to general knowledge management, complex, predefined taxonomies don't feel worth the overhead when retrieval is so often ad hoc and messy. Grepping about in log files for keywords usually does the trick. Tags are nice, but like you say, getting good at including searchable keywords performs a similar function.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23228861

Re: Org Mode – Organize Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by ericsoderstrom »

As a vim user, I've wanted to learn org mode for years. I kept thinking I had to start by learning vanilla emacs and then progress to org mode. Recently I've tried starting with doom emacs which emulates the vim keybinds and found it to be much easier going. I'd recommend it to any vim users wanting to get in to org mode.

Re: Org Mode – Organize Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by kmstout »

I've been playing with org-mode as the basis for a literate programming workflow. So far, the results have been nice, though tangling is slow. (For that, I wrote little tool to do the tangling for me, including following the noweb references. Combined with inotifywait, this gives me tangle-on-save.)

The most detailed org LP example I have is at

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/reindeereffect/reindeereff...

the tangled products are at

https://github.com/reindeereffect/reindeereffect.github.io/t...

and the "woven" HTML is at

https://reindeereffect.github.io/2020/05/05/index.html

Sometime in the near future I'll split the LP tools off from the rest of my configuration so that others can use them more easily, if they're so inclined.

Re: Org Mode – Organize Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by jillesvangurp »

slightwinder wrote: post #87
jillesvangurp wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few simple observations: - the venn diagram of people using emacs and using org-mode seems to largely overlap. That makes it impractical in non emacs heavy environments (aka. the wider industry). - tooling outside of emacs is mostly not there. - org mode is a basically similar to other wiki dialects with similar syntax, limitations, tooling, etc. Other than the (emacs) tooling, I don't see a strong reason for prefe…

> org mode is a basically similar to other wiki dialects with similar syntax, limitations, tooling, etc. Other than the (emacs) tooling, I don't see a strong reason for preferring it. Org-mode has a strong focus on organisational features (hence the name) and is quite extendable and modulare. With org-babel it has also a very sophisticated environment for literate programming. How are wikis in that regard this days?

Anything involving code samples, I pretty much reach for github flavor markdown. I came across asciidoc as well recently. I've never encountered any org mode in the wild (no emacs users on any of my recent projects).

Re: Org Mode – Organize Your Life in Plain Text

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Post by jillesvangurp »

bachmeier wrote: post #104
jillesvangurp wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few simple observations: - the venn diagram of people using emacs and using org-mode seems to largely overlap. That makes it impractical in non emacs heavy environments (aka. the wider industry). - tooling outside of emacs is mostly not there. - org mode is a basically similar to other wiki dialects with similar syntax, limitations, tooling, etc. Other than the (emacs) tooling, I don't see a strong reason for prefe…

Honestly, even though it's not sold that way (it's usually promoted with links to encyclopedias like this) I think the vast majority of computer users could easily use org-mode productively without knowing anything about Emacs. 1. org-mode is already installed in Emacs. Open a .org file in Emacs and you have everything you need ready and waiting. 2. You can make an outline by putting * for first-level heading, two *…

I think you just proved my point.
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