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Swiss companies must pay share of rent for employees working from home

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Re: Swiss companies must pay share of rent for employees working from home

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In the US of course, we deduct our home office from our taxes, meaning that our fellow citizens, or debt, support working from home. Thos seems like a saner solution.

> meaning that our fellow citizens, or debt, support working from home

This is the case only if you think that paying taxes is some form of duty.

Re: Swiss companies must pay share of rent for employees working from home

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> The judges estimated a monthly compensation of CHF150 ($154) for the employee’s rent to be justified. I thought it was a token amount, but then I don't know what rent in switzerland is like. Is that like 3% or 30% ?

Somewhere in between.

In Zurich 1500 would be a low rent, and 3000 would get you a 2 bedroom with view and quite spacious +80m^2

Re: Swiss companies must pay share of rent for employees working from home

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In the US of course, we deduct our home office from our taxes, meaning that our fellow citizens, or debt, support working from home. Thos seems like a saner solution.

You make it sound like European countries don’t have deductibles and similar laws for the those equally savvy to put it on the tax payers?

I see this pattern amongst Americans these days thinking these sorta of shenanigans and morally questionable laws is unique to them? Is it a form of self flagellation?

Certain European countries let tax payers pay for 80% of their foreign/migrant workforce without getting their growing revenue or equity to the state.

Re: Swiss companies must pay share of rent for employees working from home

#15

I'm confused, what is the additional expense that employees are incurring by being home? Don't they pay the same rent either way?

Equipping and maintaining a home office? Space that can no longer be used for other stuff, and costs of things like chairs and office supplies a company would normally cover?

Re: Swiss companies must pay share of rent for employees working from home

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post #9

I don't get it. Why should someone working from home make more money than someone who does not?

That's not what this is. This is: Your employer should provide the means for you to do the work they ask of you.

That's not what it is either.

As a person in the US where "health insurance" is so tangled up with employers I can tell you, the last thing anyone should want is more financial entanglements between employees and employers.

Re: Swiss companies must pay share of rent for employees working from home

#18

In the US of course, we deduct our home office from our taxes, meaning that our fellow citizens, or debt, support working from home. Thos seems like a saner solution.

Not anymore, this administration did away with that deduction in 2017 if you are an employee. Unless you are a contractor, business owner, or otherwise self employed you cannot deduct a home office.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2020/03/23/wor...

Re: Swiss companies must pay share of rent for employees working from home

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post #4

> The judges estimated a monthly compensation of CHF150 ($154) for the employee’s rent to be justified. I thought it was a token amount, but then I don't know what rent in switzerland is like. Is that like 3% or 30% ?

I don't know about Switzerland specifically, but it's up there with Norway as the most expensive places in Europe. I think they are somewhat equivalent.

For reference, in Norway, a lower-tier apartment would go for about >9000 NOK/month. You could find cheaper, but that'd be <20 square meters, or really kind landlords. (I've managed to secure two short-term contracts for a small urban apartment and a small rural house for 6000 NOK respectively, but that wasn't market rate in either case.)

Re: Swiss companies must pay share of rent for employees working from home

#20
Thought:

- Companies that now realised that remote schemes works for them, will push for that scheme to remain, with the aim of reducing their fixed costs (office rent, utilities, insurance, etc).

- This eliminates a big chunk of fixed costs... as most are shifted to the employees.

- If authorities/employees start demanding that part of those costs are covered by the company, companies will push to get avoid work-from-home schemes, as they will want more control over those expenses...

I'm sure that there are other unintended consequences, such as higher rents, but who knows.

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