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A 1969 Experiment in a Locked Room Changed Art History

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Re: A 1969 Experiment in a Locked Room Changed Art History

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Excerpt from the title:

> A 1969 Experiment in a Locked Room Changed Art History

And some quotes from the article:

> The project doesn’t have much of a legacy

> [...] it may well have inspired shifts in art education and art-making.

> It’s unlikely that Locked Room had an impact on larger shifts in art education

Well what is it? Did the experiment have any lasting influence, or did it not? The article is all over the place. It's like the author himself doesn't even know what point he's trying to make.

Re: A 1969 Experiment in a Locked Room Changed Art History

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In 97 I was studying in the 2nd year of electrical engineering high school. Every year we had to spend one week in internship at some company. I was with 2 other classmates in some company that did ISDN networks. On the very first morning boss brought notebook with 10 minute PowerPoint presentation on ISDN, told us to watch it and left. We watched it in 10 minutes and waited. He returned 8 hours later and asked us what have we learned. The notebook screen was black so he pressed the spacebar, screensaver went on (pipes from windows 95). He giggled and asked: did you change the screensaver? Get the fuck out of here! And they never let us into the building. We spent rest of the week slacking off in the town.

Re: A 1969 Experiment in a Locked Room Changed Art History

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That which does not break you makes you stronger? It was the era of pop art, experimental art, "happenings" and I could believe in the zeitgeist of this experiment. Consider that for millenia, fine arts demanded students attend dissection right up until the same timeframe. I have met Artists who would have thrived, and others who would have died in there. It was too judgemental maybe.

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Re: A 1969 Experiment in a Locked Room Changed Art History

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Excerpt from the title: > A 1969 Experiment in a Locked Room Changed Art History And some quotes from the article: > The project doesn’t have much of a legacy > [...] it may well have inspired shifts in art education and art-making. > It’s unlikely that Locked Room had an impact on larger shifts in art education Well what is it? Did the experiment have any lasting influence, or did it not? The article is all over the…

To be honest this article seems like a presentation, maybe someone else may find an impact it had as the author wasn't able to

Re: A 1969 Experiment in a Locked Room Changed Art History

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Reading this piece I think of some questions I'd like to ask the organizers of this experiment:

- What did the tutors want to accomplish?

- What did the students actually accomplish? What feedback did the give at the end of the experiment?

- Was the experiment itself an art performance? Maybe one of the "oldest" ones?

Re: A 1969 Experiment in a Locked Room Changed Art History

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post #3

In 97 I was studying in the 2nd year of electrical engineering high school. Every year we had to spend one week in internship at some company. I was with 2 other classmates in some company that did ISDN networks. On the very first morning boss brought notebook with 10 minute PowerPoint presentation on ISDN, told us to watch it and left. We watched it in 10 minutes and waited. He returned 8 hours later and asked us wh…

what?

Re: A 1969 Experiment in a Locked Room Changed Art History

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Not good to experiment on students. I think they should have been a lot more upfront with the students about why they were structuring the class that way, and what they expected from the students. That would have given students a better starting point.

My own art major was similar, although better described as an Open Room instead of a Locked Room. You show up when you want and make what you want with zero guidance from the department faculty on whether you are wasting your time. Every two weeks you get to stand up and present your work to the rest of the department during group critiques, which were the only real thing that was mandatory.

Transitioning to that style of education takes at least half a year, but its actually great training for work after school.

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And then I remembered a passage I had read in one of Suzuki's essays. "What is the Dharma-Body of the Buddha?" ('"the Dharma-Body of the Buddha" is another way of saying Mind, Suchness, the Void, the Godhead.) The question is asked in a Zen monastery by an earnest and bewildered novice.

And with the prompt irrelevance of one of the Marx Brothers, the Master answers, "The hedge at the bottom of the garden."

"And the man who realizes this truth," the novice dubiously inquires, '"what, may I ask, is he?" Groucho gives him a whack over the shoulders with his staff and answers, "A golden-haired lion."

what better place and time is there to crack open a few heads than art school in the 60s?

Re: A 1969 Experiment in a Locked Room Changed Art History

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Not good to experiment on students. I think they should have been a lot more upfront with the students about why they were structuring the class that way, and what they expected from the students. That would have given students a better starting point. My own art major was similar, although better described as an Open Room instead of a Locked Room. You show up when you want and make what you want with zero guidance f…

> Not good to experiment on students.

Ideas of consent have changed a lot over the succeeding decades. (Not to argue with you, of course, just to point out that it would have looked different at the time.) The 3 Christs of Ypsilanti, for example, was only a little earlier.

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