Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer • Hacker News Board

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by dagw » Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 5:53 PM UTC

swilliams wrote: post #17

The marketing for Windows Phone 7 was pretty extensive in the US. I don't watch much TV, but I definitely saw plenty of the "We need a phone to save us from our phones" ads. Was it really that much smaller in the UK? And have there really been NO bugfixes or patches (other than the notorious one he mentioned)? That's insane. Microsoft has got to know how far behind the ball they are... why aren't they pulling out all…

I don't know about the UK, but there has been zero windows Phone 7 advertising in Sweden. No TV, no billboards, no in store promotion, hell I haven't even a working WP7 demo phone in any electronics store. If you don't follow tech blogs there would be no way to know that WP7 was even out. Compare this to Android where there is plenty of promotion on all fronts and it looks like Microsoft doesn't really want to sell phones here.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by WiseWeasel » Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 6:38 PM UTC

recoiledsnake wrote: post #55

WiseWeasel wrote: post #54

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And replace their HTML rendering engine with webkit.

Why? They're already close to having IE9 on the phone.

First of all, IE9 is still years behind Webkit, Firefox and Opera in HTML5 and CSS support. Second, we'll see how quickly they can actually trim it into something usable on a mobile ARM platform; closeness is relative.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by rick_bc » Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 7:27 PM UTC

yread wrote: post #63

inflatablenerd wrote: post #45

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Why?

I don't understand why a web developer would have to go and develop applications for mobile platform when (s)he doesn't enjoy it. If I had to work with in an OS that I hate, with developer tools that I hate in a programing language that I hate I would rather change jobs.

But it's not a job for him; it's his business.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by alok-g » Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 9:19 PM UTC

tomjen3 wrote: post #47

alok-g wrote: post #24

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You could be right about Bluetooth issue being linked to manufacturers. My Android (v2.2) does not allow removing Google account.

My HTC Desire does allow that, which phone do you use?

Motorola Droid 2 Global

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by rbanffy » Tue, Mar 15, 2011, 10:00 PM UTC

recoiledsnake wrote: post #76

rbanffy wrote: post #71

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> If you're getting downvoted for bashing MS, then you must be doing something wrong, like being way off base with your hate or something. No joke, sadly. While I get carried away sometimes (Windows has improved a lot since my windows 2003 days, WP7 is neither "Vista Phone 7" nor "WinMo 7") I see very frequent downmods when I paint Microsoft technologies in unfavorable light, most of them occurring early in the morni…

Well, I've seen most posts/stories critical of MS going up highly. Not so for Apple comments/stories. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1800253 http://mattmaroon.com/2010/11/23/i-quit-hacker-news/

It really depends. When I criticize Windows, its innards, .Net or C#, I get consistent downvotes. Less consistent when I criticize Sharepoint (which makes sense - nobody likes that monstrosity). Internet Explorer, OTOH, gets little love from everyone and seems even less popular than Sharepoint.