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Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Seems like linux is not for you, just stay on macos and enjoy your user hostile nonfree software :)

This answer misses the point in a really big way. Until my mother can use Linux, almost nobody will.

Lots of mothers already use Linux. Yours may be special in this respect but that does not imply much about anybody else.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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No, that's not what he's telling you. You're getting ahead of yourself with your question. He's telling us that macOS will consult with Apple regarding the "fingerprint" of an executable when you run it.

But the fingerprint of photoshop is the same for everyone. If apple knows what the fingerprint of photoshop is (which they could easily find out), now they have a giant list of who installed photoshop and when, and from which IP address, and which IP location. That data would be a wet dream for some IP lawyer looking for pirate copies of software...

My personal wet dream is that I can download any shady Photoshop torrent and Apple will block the ones that have trojans baked in. Given that Apple won't even open up their infrastructure to US law enforcement, I can't see them teaming up with IP lawyers anytime soon.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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My 16” is a huge disappointment. After swearing off Intel PCs after a disaster ours X1 Carbon, I switched back to a 2013 15” until this month. Figured after six months bugs would be ironed out. Wrong. I’m seeing two major glitches that have macrumors threads dozens of pages long: 1) with an external display connected, dGPU utilization shoots up to 20W at idle. (The rest of machine draws well under 10W at idle.) That…

My partner is a graphic designer who loathed her 13" macbook that her work got her. She finally got an upgrade to a 16", i9, 64 gigs of ram. It runs adobe software like total shit. I think it's something to do with Catalina + accessing files in Google Drive File Stream + Adobe. It runs illustrator horribly. It's basically the saddest thing I've ever seen. I think I'll get her a 17" XPS for christmas this year.

Any third-party antivirus or other corporate compliance-ware? Google FS and AV don't work so well together.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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It seems pretty unique to Apple in my experience. I have an ancient Android tablet. I don't even know how old the OS is on it. It never nags me to upgrade. My Linux boxes never nag me to upgrade. When I do upgrade, things mostly keep working, and if they don't it's pretty easy to roll things back.

How do you roll back an upgrade in android and whatever linux distribution you're using?

Perhaps LVM snapshots are an option for Linux rollback?

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Seems like linux is not for you, just stay on macos and enjoy your user hostile nonfree software :)

This answer misses the point in a really big way. Until my mother can use Linux, almost nobody will.

Multiple mothers in my family use Linux. The volume and nature of tech support questions are often not OS-specific. Last issue I dealt with was a dusty DVD Drive that needed to be replaced.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Why don't companies come out and tell people what they're doing these days? Telemetry is getting to the point where people such as doctors and lawyers might be violating the law by using a modern computer. And people in the defense industry? Doesn't Apple employ thousands of forns? Who's audited their datasystems and ensured that this stuff stays private? Much easier and better to just stop using it all and move to a…

I don't know about BSD, but even "mainstream" Linux (i.e. Ubuntu and the like) has telemetry now. This sort of spyware is everywhere. I think Windows 10 was the first to really normalise such behaviour on the desktop, and all the others just followed along. where people such as doctors and lawyers might be violating the law by using a modern computer That reminds me of a story I heard not long ago --- a company wante…

Does Debian do any telemetry besides popcorn? I'd be real surprised.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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The Photoshop binary is signed (presumably; it's been years since I last ran it), so this check would NOT be conducted. Edit: What I should have said is that the binary is signed, notarized, and the notarization stapled to it, as described here: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/notarizing_m...

The author of the article mentioned explicitly that he signed a binary, and the check still occurred.

Did he staple the notarization though? They are 2 separate steps.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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I guess the list of things keeping me off catalina (and, by extension, new Mac hardware) just got one item longer. I recently bought a new System76 laptop as a stopgap, but it might end up becoming permanent. Kind of a sad end for 25+ years of Mac use.

My 16” is a huge disappointment. After swearing off Intel PCs after a disaster ours X1 Carbon, I switched back to a 2013 15” until this month. Figured after six months bugs would be ironed out. Wrong. I’m seeing two major glitches that have macrumors threads dozens of pages long: 1) with an external display connected, dGPU utilization shoots up to 20W at idle. (The rest of machine draws well under 10W at idle.) That…

I have both of the issues you describe.

Unfortunately, while the kernel panics will most likely be fixed eventually (10.15.4 is a complete shitshow, even by Catalina standards), it seems the dGPU is actually working as designed with the high idle power draw. If you search for “navi multiple monitor power draw” you can find reports of desktop AMD cards that predate the 16” MacBook Pro that exhibit the exact same behaviour. It’s something to do with memory clocks and mismatched resolutions/refresh rates between monitors, and I very much doubt it will ever be addressed via software (if it even can be).

Very annoying as it causes the fans to spin up audibly when you put it under the slightest stress.

Like you I don’t know what to do. I’m able to return it due to the extended return window they have currently, but I have absolutely no intent of switching to Windows or Linux.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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If only moving to Linux were an option for everyone. The other day I tried for the 100th time to move to Linux. I installed a recent build of a maintained, popular distribution (no it doesn't matter which one - I have tried them all), on hardware that is famous for it's Linux support. Everything worked for a day and a half, then the sound just fucking died. No input or output. I get millions of people use Linux daily…

Vagrant. https://www.vagrantup.com/downloads.html Spin up a Linux box in macOS and ssh into it directly. It is a true joy if you are comfortable working with text files (programming, admin, focused writing, etc.) It will default to using VirtualBox as the underlying virtualization. That works a treat and hides all the GUI madness of VirtualBox. However, if you open up VirtualBox then you can interact with the host yo…

Personally I prefer VMWare Fusion for linux visualization. There are a number of tweaks that it comes with and I never really feel like anything is impossible. It may be poorly documented at times (custom networking, say) but it's all possible and it handles retina really well.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Why don't companies come out and tell people what they're doing these days? Telemetry is getting to the point where people such as doctors and lawyers might be violating the law by using a modern computer. And people in the defense industry? Doesn't Apple employ thousands of forns? Who's audited their datasystems and ensured that this stuff stays private? Much easier and better to just stop using it all and move to a…

If only moving to Linux were an option for everyone. The other day I tried for the 100th time to move to Linux. I installed a recent build of a maintained, popular distribution (no it doesn't matter which one - I have tried them all), on hardware that is famous for it's Linux support. Everything worked for a day and a half, then the sound just fucking died. No input or output. I get millions of people use Linux daily…

I had sound drivers die on me on famous brands laptops under Windows.

I had OSX lock up or lose any display on MBPs with NVidia chips.

On my wife's old windows desktop I had to plug a USB audio dongle, because of audio glitches.

Some of it is sloppy drivers, some, faulty or poorly designed hardware.

"Sound just died" is, unfortunately, not specific to Linux in any way.

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