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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by MarkSweep » Sat, May 23, 2020, 2:41 PM UTC

wolfgang42 wrote: post #142

redis_mlc wrote: post #135

> Your profile is about to become public That's pretty horrible. But I have to ask ... since my understanding is that hiring companies make you redo the technical interviews again, what is the point of doing the Triplebyte interview process at all? Also related, there was a startup that was scraping your Linkedin status and sending that to employers who subscribed, effectively doing the same thing Triplebyte is plann…

The hiring company has to follow a standardized flow for any candidates they get through Triplebyte. Triplebyte does their own evaluation and reports the results, and then each hiring company is only allowed to do a short non-technical[1] phone screen plus a single day of onsite interviews before either rejecting the candidate or extending an offer. [1] and they enforce this—they specifically ask the candidate to rep…

I don’t think this is true anymore. I reported extra interviews to my talent manager and they said nothing. Then I got an email that they fired all talent managers.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by jdxcode » Sat, May 23, 2020, 2:42 PM UTC

wolfgang42 wrote: post #41

I interviewed via Triplebyte last year, and thoroughly enjoyed the service. Before this I would have (and did) wholeheartedly recommended them to anyone; the process was great from the candidate’s perspective and I also have confidence in their ability to accurately evaluate candidates’ skills. After this announcement, though, I’m afraid that faith has completely crumbled. Even if Ammon had showed up in this thread a…

I didn't find any good jobs on my last job hunt through them, but was happy enough with the process that I put their little certification widget on my linkedin. Gonna get rid of that now.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by jdxcode » Sat, May 23, 2020, 2:46 PM UTC

kylebarron wrote: post #6

Hard to find the opt-out button. You have to sign in, go to your "profile builder" [0], and then click the very low contrast "Visibility settings" button just below the top of your profile. [0]: https://triplebyte.com/candidates/profile_builder

Note that I clicked that and got an email saying that it would be automatically reactivated in 24 months. I would just delete your account at https://triplebyte.com/privacy-center

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by agentultra » Sat, May 23, 2020, 2:46 PM UTC

What does “based on actual skills,” mean?

I’ve seen the kind of code competitive programming sites put up and the solutions people share. There is a complete disregard for best practices. Memory leaks are common in solutions. APIs that should be using const or references to prevent errors. In competitive coding all that matters is finding a solution. But in industry there’s much more to it than that: how do services like Triblebyte present that?

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by icedchai » Sat, May 23, 2020, 2:46 PM UTC

DethNinja wrote: post #281

josephg wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice but ... I don’t think the European government has legal standing to fine triplebyte. Triplebyte doesn’t have offices, employees or customers in Europe. A European visiting the US and interacting with an American business does so under the protection of US law, not EU law. This is complicated in the case of Facebook and google because they also do business in Europe, so E…

Triplebyte can be 100% fined by EU, there are such previous cases where HQ is out of EU but they are serving EU citizens. GDPR is very clear in wording that it doesn’t matter whether company has offices in EU or not, only thing that matters is if company is providing services to EU citizens.

Triplebyte can just forward those fines to the circular file. There is no practical method of enforcement unless they have a physical EU presence.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by asidiali » Sat, May 23, 2020, 2:49 PM UTC

bootlooped wrote: post #305

asidiali wrote: post #287

Triplebyte was already a joke, this was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Their whole “Fast Track” program claiming to allow you to skip technical interviews is a total fraud of a marketing ploy. They make you take a 2 hour live coding interview with a Triplebyte engineer, with the promise that if you pass, you won’t need to do any more technical interviews with companies through Triplebyte, only “final-round pe…

"They make you take a 2 hour live coding interview with a Triplebyte engineer, with the promise that if you pass, you won’t need to do any more technical interviews with companies through Triplebyte, only “final-round personality-style on-sites”." I was never given the impression that there would be no more technical interviews after the Triplebyte one. They were always crystal clear with me that there would be 2 ste…

Thanks for sharing! They told me there would be a 30m pitch call followed by an all day of on-sites that were explicitly not whiteboarding sessions or technical assessments. Also, I still did have several back and forth calls with companies I was connected with - it wasn’t just the one half-hour call and then on-sites.

Here’s the exact email from TripleByte upon passing the quiz:

“ Here's how it works: 1. We'll show your profile to companies that are likely a good fit. 2. The companies will request interviews with you. 3. You'll be able to review the requests, and accept the ones you're interested in. After you accept an interview request, the next step is an introductory phone call where you and the company get to know one another. The companies that work with us all agree to skip technical screening, and take you right to the final interview (saving you time). To get started, complete your profile so that we can find the right companies and roles for you. After you complete your profile, you'll also gain access to our exclusive Triplebyte Alum Slack community, which can help support you throughout your career.”

> The companies that work with us all agree to skip technical screening, and take you right to the final interview (saving you time).

Define technical screening? To me this means that I’m already technically screened. They also have changed their copy. The copy on their landing site around FastTrack used to be much more explicit around skipping all technical assessments.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by wilde » Sat, May 23, 2020, 2:50 PM UTC

aidos wrote: post #204

Wow. Thanks for this. I ignored the email because Triplebyte just feels a bit spammy to me now so I mentally block it out. Have logged in to stop this from happening and currently apparently I'm "Open to discussing new opportunities", which is news to me. On trying to change it to "Not interested in any new opportunities" there's a dropdown that says "I’d be open to new opportunities in:" and most you can set it to i…

Thank you for the link! The visibility settings button is basically invisible and so I had marked myself as "not looking" rather than "not visible".

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by gruez » Sat, May 23, 2020, 3:03 PM UTC

darekkay wrote: post #273

m11a wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a horrible way companies try to discourage data subjects from exercising their rights. This is not lawful under both the GDPR and the CCPA. If Triplebyte follow through with their request against an EU or California resident, they'd be breaking data protection laws. If comments here are any indication, too many people, being unaware of their rights, may fall for it though.

> This is not lawful under both the GDPR and the CCPA. INAL, but from my understanding that's exactly what GDPR itself suggests to do: > The controller should use all reasonable measures to verify the identity of a data subject who requests access, in particular in the context of online services and online identifiers. Thats mainly because [2]: > There is a very real concern of fraudulent requests from bad actors, wh…

Is there a privacy preserving alternative to sending a scan of your drivers license/passport? Can you get a notary to attest your identity, and you send them the notarized request?

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by kerkeslager » Sat, May 23, 2020, 3:03 PM UTC

ammon wrote: post #73

ganstyles wrote: post #24

This is horrible, what a breach of trust. I used TB to stealthily interview for jobs, had a good experience. Recommended them to others. Now I see that if I hadn't seen this post, I wouldn't have known about this and those details would have been public, which had the potential to seriously undermine me at my current position. I'll opt out tomorrow, but according to others it sounds like the visibility link was somew…

Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

I don't want a public profile of any kind on your website.

There isn't a spin you're going to be able to put on this that's going to change that what you're doing here is diametrically opposed to my goals. You knew that, which is why you tried to sneak it past everyone.

The problem isn't that people think what you're doing is unethical. The problem is that what you are doing actually is unethical.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by gruez » Sat, May 23, 2020, 3:05 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #152

ammon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really sorry that you think this is awful. Certainly do opt-out. I think that taking on LinkedIn and creating a better engineering resume is a good thing to do. I can assure you that the Friday announcement is a result of our team grinding to hit a planned release week, not anything other than that (I would have loved to get this out earlier in the week)

> Really sorry that you think this is awful. Classic non-apology apology. You should not be sorry that he thinks it is awful, you should be sorry that it is awful . Nobody cares about how much work you put into what amounts to an illegal disclosure of personal data.

Relevant: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20070226-01/?p=27...

>In the politician’s apology, you apologize not for the offense itself, but for the fact that what you did offended someone. “I’m sorry you’re a hypersensitive crybaby.”