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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by xnyan »

neilv wrote: post #213
Nezteb wrote: post #123

I have a few guesses about this: 1. Triplebyte knew this would cause some outrage, especially on HN and Reddit. 2. Triplebyte did some calculations and predicted that doing this on a Friday and only giving people a week to opt-out would result in the fewest number of opt-outs. 3. Triplebyte assumed that many of those outraged online would delete their accounts. 4. Despite all of the above, Triplebyte calculated that…

> doing this on a Friday Was it Friday of a three-day weekend? That's one of the best news dump days of the year.

Yep, Monday is a holiday (if you happen to have a job, and have a job that gives paid holidays)

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by bryant »

ammon wrote: post #73
ganstyles wrote: post #24

This is horrible, what a breach of trust. I used TB to stealthily interview for jobs, had a good experience. Recommended them to others. Now I see that if I hadn't seen this post, I wouldn't have known about this and those details would have been public, which had the potential to seriously undermine me at my current position. I'll opt out tomorrow, but according to others it sounds like the visibility link was somew…

Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

> 25(2). The controller shall implement appropriate technical and organisational measures for ensuring that, by default, only personal data which are necessary for each specific purpose of the processing are processed. That obligation applies to the amount of personal data collected, the extent of their processing, the period of their storage and their accessibility. In particular, such measures shall ensure that by default personal data are not made accessible without the individual's intervention to an indefinite number of natural persons.

You may wish to consult your privacy attorneys; you'll likely be the subject of a number of GDPR complaints considering the above.

My interpretation of the above if you were to do it within the letter of the law (again, talk to your attorneys; I'm just a security director):

1. opt-in via settings page (or a modal on next login) for all people who already have accounts.

2. opt-in during registration for all people who choose to register accounts after the roll-over date.

Again, talk to your attorneys. If you successfully roll over without having taken the suggestion to talk to your attorneys, your conversation with your attorneys may change from "how to best implement this" to "how to avoid getting fined."

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by marcinzm »

TripleByte has taken on $50 million in funding and covid is deeply slowing down hiring. I'm guessing this is the desperate phase of company growth as they try to pivot to increase growth metrics. I'm curious if they would have done it had covid not happened.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by bryant »

pmiller2 wrote: post #186
prox wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still, please don’t do things that need actual consent in IRL (making something that was private, public) If your new service is of true benefit, it will be used.

What makes you think anything on your TripleByte profile was ever "private." It was not. It was merely hidden from the majority of the world. If you have a TripleByte profile, presumably, at some point, you were job hunting, and likely advertising that fact to anyone you thought could help you.

> GDPR 25(2). The controller shall implement appropriate technical and organisational measures for ensuring that, by default, only personal data which are necessary for each specific purpose of the processing are processed. That obligation applies to the amount of personal data collected, the extent of their processing, the period of their storage and their accessibility. In particular, such measures shall ensure that by default personal data are not made accessible without the individual's intervention to an indefinite number of natural persons.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by flareback »

aidos wrote: post #204

Wow. Thanks for this. I ignored the email because Triplebyte just feels a bit spammy to me now so I mentally block it out. Have logged in to stop this from happening and currently apparently I'm "Open to discussing new opportunities", which is news to me. On trying to change it to "Not interested in any new opportunities" there's a dropdown that says "I’d be open to new opportunities in:" and most you can set it to i…

Thanks. I was looking for the link to delete my account.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by wodenokoto »

ammon wrote: post #12
haram_masala wrote: post #5

This is awful. And announcing this late on a Friday is what news organizations call “taking out the trash,” publicizing something when people aren’t paying attention.

Really sorry that you think this is awful. Certainly do opt-out. I think that taking on LinkedIn and creating a better engineering resume is a good thing to do. I can assure you that the Friday announcement is a result of our team grinding to hit a planned release week, not anything other than that (I would have loved to get this out earlier in the week)

Sera HN: Please don’t downvoted these kinds of replies from relevant people.

They are super interesting given the link, so why try and hide them?

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by marcinzm »

wolfgang42 wrote: post #89
ammon wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

Even so, the decision to make this opt-out instead of opt-in is extremely questionable. If it’s just a spot to put badges, why is it so critical that it be rushed through next week? And why are you so carefully avoiding talking about the opt-out when a significant chunk of the people in this thread are telling you that it’s the main thing they’re upset about? “Sorry that you feel this way” is the worst kind of corpor…

> If it’s just a spot to put badges, why is it so critical that it be rushed through next week?

I'm guessing it's because their corporate metrics took a dive due to covid hiring slowdowns and now they need to justify their worth to investors who have put in $50 million.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by throwphoton »

ammon wrote: post #10

Hey everyone. Happy to answer any questions about this. Basically, we think that LinkedIn profiles don't do a good job of showing engineering skill (especially for self-taught people or people from non-traditional backgrounds). I'm excited to just build better support for showing side projects and GitHub contributions. LinkedIn profiles have become the default engineering resume (despite the fact that most engineers…

You're missing the point by focusing on the job search information specifically.

Any information provided without a clear understanding that it would be made public should not now be made public by default, even if it is just a name and some badges.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by flareback »

joelhaasnoot wrote: post #233
gitgud wrote: post #183

I remember doing the Triplebyte quiz a few years ago and getting the response: > "We really appreciate you taking the time to complete our quiz and coding problems. Unfortunately we couldn't accept your application this time." It didn't show a score or anything, so I had no idea what I should improve on or what I was good at. Pretty sure they hide the results so people can't cheat, but the whole experience left me fe…

They also don't serve a lot of regions and still bait you into creating a profile...

Yep, they didn't have any positions in the area I live in.
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