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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by g_p »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #218
g_p wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a GDPR perspective, for anyone who is able to lay claim to GDPR protections, it wouldn't matter whether this is written in red on the first line of the agreement - "data protection by default" means that you must default to not sharing with an unlimited number of people. What this means in practice is you can't default anything containing personal info to being public by default.

Yup. One of the best benefits of GDPR is that you don't have to read the fine print anymore, because companies can't legally put anything abusive in there, at least with respect to processing your data.

Absolutely. Article 25(2) is written for this specific situation, and expressly prohibits opt-out situations where personal data might be made publicly accessible:

"In particular, such measures shall ensure that by default personal data are not made accessible without the individual’s intervention to an indefinite number of natural persons."

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by joelhaasnoot »

gitgud wrote: post #183

I remember doing the Triplebyte quiz a few years ago and getting the response: > "We really appreciate you taking the time to complete our quiz and coding problems. Unfortunately we couldn't accept your application this time." It didn't show a score or anything, so I had no idea what I should improve on or what I was good at. Pretty sure they hide the results so people can't cheat, but the whole experience left me fe…

They also don't serve a lot of regions and still bait you into creating a profile...

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by GordonS »

ammon wrote: post #67
yaacov wrote: post #29

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Thanks for coming to answer questions here even though you’re likely to get dragged through the mud for this decision. FWIW, I agree with other commenters that this is a betrayal of trust but I don’t have anything original to add.

Well, sorry that you feel this way. I don't agree right now (clearly). But I'll certainly take this seriously and think more about it/listen to feedback. We're talking about relatively basic profiles, to give us the canvas to launch public achievement badges (that we hope allow us to better help people who don't have traditional credentials). My view, building this, is that we're not displaying anything more private…

> Stack Overflow has public profiles. Hacker Rank has public profile. AngelList has public profiles. Even HN has public profiles.

Come on now, these examples are not even remotely similar to what you are doing here.

Firstly, it's up to me whether or not I even create a profile on those sites.

Secondly, if I choose to create a profile, I have full control over what is shown publicly.

What you are doing here is making information public whether I like it or not. This is not OK, and you trying to defend it here is mind boggling, and demonstrates clearly what little regards you have for privacy. I for one will now never have anything to do with TripleByte.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by Etheryte »

For anyone from Europe, in addition to deleting your account [1], I strongly urge you to write privacy@triplebyte.com with a GDPR request. Given Regulation 2016/679 [2], you have the right to:

- request a full copy of any information held about you (article 15)

- withdraw consent and request deletion of any information about you (article 17)

- object any further processing of your data, including making it public (article 21)

Playing with people's data like this is not okay and personally I plan to take them to court if they don't comply.

[1] https://triplebyte.com/privacy-center

[2] https://gdpr-info.eu/

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by josephg »

ORioN63 wrote: post #225
mkagenius wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> candidate.support@triplebyte.com Did they purposefully go out of the way to make this email address unguessable/non-standard/multi-word

support@triplebyte.com is probably for clients. Source: Candidate, has a very specific marketing meaning, of you being the product.

There’s a lot of things to dislike about triplebyte’s behaviour here, but this particular criticism isn’t fair.

I’ve worked at 3 different companies in the hiring space across two continents and “candidate” is the internal term they all ended up using internally for people seeking jobs. “Applicant” is too vague and “job seeker” is long and hard to scan (and it’s too similar at a glance to “job”, which is also not often used).

If “candidate” has bad connotations for you, I’d love to hear a better suggestion. But I still haven’t seen a more appropriate name for my database table.

Company / candidate / role / resume / profile / interview / offer. These are the terms almost everyone uses.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by [deleted] »

im3w1l wrote: post #181
g_p wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless, this breaches GDPR by making data public and accessible to an unlimited audience by default. I hope (for your sake) that you don't have any users that can invoke their GDPR rights against you by virtue of their citizenship. For the sake of incentivising companies to do the right thing, however, I hope you do have some EU or UK citizen users who do litigate or have their data protection authority investiga…

Triplebyte is only targetting Americans afaik.

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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by Infinitesimus »

danjac wrote: post #209
gitgud wrote: post #183

I remember doing the Triplebyte quiz a few years ago and getting the response: > "We really appreciate you taking the time to complete our quiz and coding problems. Unfortunately we couldn't accept your application this time." It didn't show a score or anything, so I had no idea what I should improve on or what I was good at. Pretty sure they hide the results so people can't cheat, but the whole experience left me fe…

They're just capitalizing on the leetcode interview fetish among certain cargo-culting startups.

> ... among certain cargo-culting startups.

... all of the biggest, highest paying tech companies

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by Moru »

arcturus17 wrote: post #184

Wow, what a dumpster fire. The CEO coming in here and trying to defend that this is actually a great idea is only making things worse. I'm guessing they don't operate in Europe, because this would be a massive violation of many European and national privacy regulations. Maybe they should take a hint from this - the fact that they can pull it off in the US doesn't mean it's morally acceptable.

As owner I would not plan any European trips anytime soon.
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