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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#132

This is horrible, what a breach of trust. I used TB to stealthily interview for jobs, had a good experience. Recommended them to others. Now I see that if I hadn't seen this post, I wouldn't have known about this and those details would have been public, which had the potential to seriously undermine me at my current position. I'll opt out tomorrow, but according to others it sounds like the visibility link was somew…

It looks like emailing candidate.support@triplebyte.com is the only way to delete your account.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for coming to answer questions here even though you’re likely to get dragged through the mud for this decision. FWIW, I agree with other commenters that this is a betrayal of trust but I don’t have anything original to add.

Well, sorry that you feel this way. I don't agree right now (clearly). But I'll certainly take this seriously and think more about it/listen to feedback. We're talking about relatively basic profiles, to give us the canvas to launch public achievement badges (that we hope allow us to better help people who don't have traditional credentials). My view, building this, is that we're not displaying anything more private…

You are not Stack Overflow. You are Ashley Madison.

Outing people who trusted you to help them find a better job in secret will go very badly for you.

I predict lawsuits.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#134
post #131

Funny how this[1] is their modal when you log in. [1]: https://i.imgur.com/0J4sVlX.png

Transcription:

> Welcome to Triplebyte

> As part of this exclusive network of engineers:

> - Companies reach out to you

> - You control what companies see

> - Your profile is private

> Now, let’s take a look at your new dashboard.

> [Next]

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#135
> Your profile is about to become public

That's pretty horrible.

But I have to ask ... since my understanding is that hiring companies make you redo the technical interviews again, what is the point of doing the Triplebyte interview process at all?

Also related, there was a startup that was scraping your Linkedin status and sending that to employers who subscribed, effectively doing the same thing Triplebyte is planning to do. There was quite an uproar over that, too.

Speaking of Linkedin, your employer can view your profile if it's public, so again, similar problem to what Triplebyte is doing.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#136
I don't know the US law. I'm just wondering... if US companies have to ensure their software is fine according to GDPR for Europe clients, I'm wondering how it is with other law.

The other law I'm thinking about is the general rule that for every change in a contract all parties must agree. It is normal that I get a letter from my bank "We are changing the rules, here you have 30 days to say you don't agree. If you won't, we'll assume you agreed. If you won't agree, your account will be closed.". So, I can say I don't agree. Here, they just assumed I agree.

Any change, like the one Triplebyte made, is not legal here without my consent. Yet, they made it.

I'm wondering what else they would change. I don't want to wake one Sunday morning to notice that they I'm charged a couple of millions because they changed the rules during the previous night.

I'm not going to show then any of my IDs. Just no. Knowing all information from my ID here has a similar power to knowing SSN in US. Instead, I just devastated my profile. There is no real information anymore. I'm wondering about adding some longer description that I'm protesting against their change of rules. I'm wondering how they would react to this. Maybe it is the way to delete my account, who knows.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#137

I tried deleting my account and apparently it takes 30 days for some reason! That looks so shady! We're processing your request and should be done within 30 days. We will verify your request using the information associated with your account. Government identification may be required and we may ask you for more information in order to verify your identify. Any questions? Email us at privacy@triplebyte.com

If you are in California, CCPA might be of some help.

Article 4(b) actually states that to verify you you (for a data delete request), they must do their best to use info they already have on you, and "Avoid collecting the types of personal information identified in Civil Code section 1798.81.5, subdivision (d)"

and in 1798.81.5,(d)(1)(A)(ii) we see: "Driver’s license number"

4(c) also helps: "A business shall generally avoid requesting additional information from the consumer for purposes of verification."

So if they can verify you another way, they must, and cannot ask for the DL (likely the only ID many people have)!, if i read that correctly

So instead of jumping through their hoops, file a CCPA request and have them chew on that.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#138
Wow, looks like triplebyte profile settings page is full of dark patterns. Like, setting yourself as not interested in offers will forcefully revert back after a time period, and that even though there’s a checkbox for opting in to being shown to companies you can’t save the profile without giving consent.

:(

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#139
post #73

This is horrible, what a breach of trust. I used TB to stealthily interview for jobs, had a good experience. Recommended them to others. Now I see that if I hadn't seen this post, I wouldn't have known about this and those details would have been public, which had the potential to seriously undermine me at my current position. I'll opt out tomorrow, but according to others it sounds like the visibility link was somew…

Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

For now. What about the future? I just don't trust any company which changes the agreements without asking for my consent. In this case I just want to close my account and delete all my data. Seems like impossible. In Europe after making things like this they could end in jail for breaking GPDR rules. In US it looks like it's fine to gather user's data, sell them without consent, and then forbid to close accounts. And there are always people who repeat "the company is fine, they have right to do it". Except they don't.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#140
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Ammon, the idea is good, it's solid. Nothing bad there. I think everyone knows LinkedIn has it's issues. But like come on. Why make everyone's private job search public? by default no less!? How can we trust triplebite with our career, finance information and personal information when you pull these kinds of moves. Make a good product. If it's actually good people will sign up.

We're not making anyone's job search details pubic. All that the profile will show is that an engineer created a Triplebyte profile at some point in the past, and any badges they earned.

All over this thread you are responding about the details not being public.

The existence of the job search itself is the issue. I'm not sure what's not getting through about that.

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