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Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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Using someone's name like that crosses into personal attack and even harassment. That's not ok on HN, so please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I don’t agree with this. It is literally his username. Have you ever seen that episode of The Office where Michael won’t call Mr. Brown by his name because he thinks it’s racist to do so? That’s what you’re doing here, Dang. It is not a personal attack unless you interpret it as such. Guidelines state to take the most charitable version of what one says. Do you think you’re doing that here?

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Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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I need to start by saying that I live in a country that's a member state of the European Union. I also need to add that I am in no way a fan of China, or the US of A, or any nation state or federal state for all that matter. Now that's out of the way, what I am a fan of is fighting for something instead of fighting against something. I don't believe or understand this narrative of fighting China. We've been outsourci…

The problem with China is that it has taken a hostile non-cooperative approach, ie it’s acting in bad faith. This is evidenced by its diplomatic failures with the region and with the world. The CCP is using economic leverage to coerce smaller players in the global system. The US has its hands tied here, there really are no other options geopolitically.

I live in Europe as well, and sometimes it feels like European leadership is extremely confused: EU is a shitshow that nobody seems to be able to lead (just look at how long it took for agreeing on debt mutualization/Eurobond, Brexit, VDL apologizing to Italy, etc), Germany working with Russia on Nord stream 2 after its actions in Ukraine, Sweden pretending like the lax virus approach has nothing to do with its hyper leveraged banks and heavily indebted households, list goes on... and all we can do is entertain ourselves by making fun of Trump. We are a joke, we can’t even keep our union together. We can’t even pay for our military because daddy America has to foot the bill and if they don’t our European leaders start whining about lack of US leadership.

The US Fed had enough vision to extend the dollar swap lines to more central banks including the Swedish central bank. For the ECB there is a permanent arrangement. Despite the “tough love“ we Europeans are getting on trade from the US, ultimately Europe will soon enough realize the US is its best ally.

We just want freedom and fair economic practices. We won’t get it if we let China play communist game theory with the only planet we have.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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I'm curious what the perceived endgame is here. Is it to sink a specific company? Send a message to a country with clear military aspirations? Reshore the semiconductor industry? Play to the president's political base? What? If the goal is to reshore the semiconductor manufacturing industry, that's not going to work. Every country will have a competitive advantage in manufacturing against the US for as long as it pri…

November elections.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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This may be a bit of pro-USA or pro-Western favoritism on my part, but if a company is getting away with illicitly gaining access to trade secrets in order to build a competitive advantage while shielded by its home country (not the best example, but t-mobile v. huawei - I imagine plenty of others are classified), is it in-scope for opposing nations to destabilize the company responsible for doing so?

Every major Corp is getting intel. This has always been the case and will always be the case.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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Microsoft? It’s not the nineties. Try Google.

Google doesn’t have a monopoly on OSes though, which is what GP stated and seems like a reference to MS to me.

Google still owns Android - an OS the majority of the world uses, and is required to ship with Chrome (among other programs) pre-installed if the OEM also wants access to the Google Play Store.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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Microsoft? It’s not the nineties. Try Google.

Actually, Google is illicitly leveraging its monopoly on web search traffic , not operating systems.

It can be both - Android and Google Search both push consumers towards Drive, Docs, GMail, and as GP mentioned, Chrome.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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I need to start by saying that I live in a country that's a member state of the European Union. I also need to add that I am in no way a fan of China, or the US of A, or any nation state or federal state for all that matter. Now that's out of the way, what I am a fan of is fighting for something instead of fighting against something. I don't believe or understand this narrative of fighting China. We've been outsourci…

The problem with China is that it has taken a hostile non-cooperative approach, ie it’s acting in bad faith. This is evidenced by its diplomatic failures with the region and with the world. The CCP is using economic leverage to coerce smaller players in the global system. The US has its hands tied here, there really are no other options geopolitically. I live in Europe as well, and sometimes it feels like European le…

DJT fucked both US and EU when it started to create a wedge with trade tariffs and other issues. Instead of strengthening EU and US ties he weakened it and gives china more space to operate in.

China can play any games it wants when the rest of us are locked on making cheap political points by pointing finger at eachothers inadequate response to this pandemic.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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I need to start by saying that I live in a country that's a member state of the European Union. I also need to add that I am in no way a fan of China, or the US of A, or any nation state or federal state for all that matter. Now that's out of the way, what I am a fan of is fighting for something instead of fighting against something. I don't believe or understand this narrative of fighting China. We've been outsourci…

You mean "co-operation" in this way?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCeDr07oh64

Almost every frame of it is stolen either from CD projekt or Riot, so did of this company's many other popular titles, top 2 game company and they earning big.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1a5411s7bi

Doesn't even try to hide anything.

You should read some Chinese history textbooks, to see how much hatred is instilled since young, there will be only one left.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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The issue with Huawei is that they are actually 4 years ahead in terms of infrastructure technology compared to any american company.

The problem with China is that they support their companies in ways that are incompatible with western laws. In the long run it is simply not possible for US companies to compete with Chinese companies, as they would be essentially competing with the Chinese nation.

If that’s the issue why not form American nation like companies or something of the sorts? Or Americano-European conglomerates? Competition could be a good thing at the end of the day..

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with China is that it has taken a hostile non-cooperative approach, ie it’s acting in bad faith. This is evidenced by its diplomatic failures with the region and with the world. The CCP is using economic leverage to coerce smaller players in the global system. The US has its hands tied here, there really are no other options geopolitically. I live in Europe as well, and sometimes it feels like European le…

DJT fucked both US and EU when it started to create a wedge with trade tariffs and other issues. Instead of strengthening EU and US ties he weakened it and gives china more space to operate in. China can play any games it wants when the rest of us are locked on making cheap political points by pointing finger at eachothers inadequate response to this pandemic.

What are you talking about? The EU runs a current account surplus with the US, and it's a protectorate of the US through NATO. Europe is absolutely delusional and ungrateful.
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