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Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by monadic2 »

np_tedious wrote: post #47
monadic2 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Automatic on and off of various devices and removal of crap proprietary controllers and apps has made many things much better Off-hand I'd think for things like a grill I'd want this to be handled at the power strip level. Normally a grill, like a weber grill, is just a piece of metal and will last until you wear it out (even then it's mostly the flimsy legs that fail). If you add internet connectivity, the expecte…

Wouldn't that be binary on/off instead of a temperature sliding deal? Valid concern about more moving parts and expected lifetime

Presumably the grill temp itself is best addressed through the grill—you can mechanically attenuate gas very effectively and intuitively, plus you'd presumably be at the grill already.

Personally I use charcoal because I like flavor. :)

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by phil21 »

youngNed wrote: post #43
crazygringo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw from another thread that this is actually for the temperature of a meat thermometer, that you can constantly monitor and without having to open the grill (which is undesirable). So actually not a crock of shit, and pretty useful if you're grilling/smoking over long periods of time before/during a big party or something. Not all grilling is quick searing. Sometimes new features aren't just gimmicks, you know?

a guage. On the bbq lid. No, i can't check it while i sit inside, this is true, there is, however a very good argument that says, maybe i shouldn't actually be inside while the bbq is on though.

Others have pointed out that this is meat temp, not grill temp.

But even if it were grill temp the gauge on the BBQ lid is more of a guide than an actual temperature. They are highly inaccurate, more like "cold, warm, hot" than "400 degrees".

For most stuff just dialing in the temp comparatively is fine, so the grill gauge works. You know you want to grill your steak when the thing reads 600 degrees, and your chicken at 400. But those temps are certainly not remotely accurate.

For some other things (e.g. BBQ/smokers/etc.) getting exact temps correct is key. In those cases you'll require something much more accurate than the grill gauge even just to measure grill temp. Having something wireless is pretty handy in this case, so you can watch a movie in the basement and check on your meat temps without walking upstairs every 15 minutes.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by chadcmulligan »

_AzMoo wrote: post #41
beervirus wrote: post #7

What a crock of shit that grills are now IoT devices. The less of my life that’s accessible on the Internet, the better.

No, it's awesome. If you're slow cooking some meat for 9 hours you need a constant low temperature. It connects to the app on your phone and you can set thresholds to alert on. You can connect multiple probes, so you can monitor the temperature of the grill as well as the temperature of the meat, all without having to open the grill which compromises the temperature. Makes slow cooking (the best kind) infinitely easi…

My brother has one, sticks a roast in the weber, his iPhone goes ding when it's up to temperature while he's watching tv. It's a great thing.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by wccrawford »

zerocrates wrote: post #53
youngNed wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a guage. On the bbq lid. No, i can't check it while i sit inside, this is true, there is, however a very good argument that says, maybe i shouldn't actually be inside while the bbq is on though.

There's a barbecue recipe guy I like, big proponent of leave-in thermometers (the kind with leads that snake outside the barbecue). He likes to say that the in-lid thermometers are just fine, provided you're planning to eat the lid. I still probably wouldn't use an IoT one, though.

Why would an IOT thermometer be any better than one that just has a readout on the lid?

I understand that if the thermometer is on th lid and not actually measuring the meat it's crap, but if it's measuring the same way as the IOT version, then the readout is fine on the lid.

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Post by KZeillmann »

flukus wrote: post #59
olyjohn wrote: post #45

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Not the grill temp... the meat temp.

A meat gauge connected to the thermometer on the lid then. This whole attitude to cooking is also weird. Cooking is in large part experimenting, seeing what works and what doesn't, learning and iterating. Sometimes the results will be bad, often they'll be sub-optimal but the variance is part of what makes it and we lose something by trying to turn it into an exact science. If you want something precisely timed and a…

Using a meat thermometer (leave-in probe or instant) is a fantastic element of modern cooking, and a huge advancement in food safety. I can't imagine cooking without it. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy experimenting - but it does mean my chicken doesn't dry out or come out undercooked.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by grawprog »

rhizome wrote: post #8

Android is such a drag sometimes. Between mystery quirks like this, where I'm sure someone who has been making Android apps for 6 years will be able to explain it, and things like the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel[1], such that Android will routinely topline sharing to a contact you got one text message from three years ago. "F.U., that's why" is the simplest conclusion I can…

I dunno what's going on with you and some of the other child commenter's phones but my share panel is only people I text every day and always has been.

Also, the share panel is configurable:

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/edit-androids-share-m...

Can confirm this works, I just tried it.

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Post by 27182818284 »

grawprog wrote: post #67
rhizome wrote: post #8

Android is such a drag sometimes. Between mystery quirks like this, where I'm sure someone who has been making Android apps for 6 years will be able to explain it, and things like the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel[1], such that Android will routinely topline sharing to a contact you got one text message from three years ago. "F.U., that's why" is the simplest conclusion I can…

I dunno what's going on with you and some of the other child commenter's phones but my share panel is only people I text every day and always has been. Also, the share panel is configurable: https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/edit-androids-share-m... Can confirm this works, I just tried it.

I run stock Android on a Pixel phone and the default people in my share area are people I haven't communicated with in years. I hate it so much. They're in my contacts in case they ever reach out, but by no means is it the last people I texted or anything close to that.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by KZeillmann »

wccrawford wrote: post #65
zerocrates wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a barbecue recipe guy I like, big proponent of leave-in thermometers (the kind with leads that snake outside the barbecue). He likes to say that the in-lid thermometers are just fine, provided you're planning to eat the lid. I still probably wouldn't use an IoT one, though.

Why would an IOT thermometer be any better than one that just has a readout on the lid? I understand that if the thermometer is on th lid and not actually measuring the meat it's crap, but if it's measuring the same way as the IOT version, then the readout is fine on the lid.

Placement. Either you want a probe thermometer measuring the internal temperature of the meat or an air temperature probe on the indirect side of grill. The gauge on the grill is likely to be off 50-100 degrees F. They're often cheaply made and not as high quality as something like a probe themometer from Thermoworks, or presumably this Weber device.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by peapicker »

wccrawford wrote: post #65
zerocrates wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a barbecue recipe guy I like, big proponent of leave-in thermometers (the kind with leads that snake outside the barbecue). He likes to say that the in-lid thermometers are just fine, provided you're planning to eat the lid. I still probably wouldn't use an IoT one, though.

Why would an IOT thermometer be any better than one that just has a readout on the lid? I understand that if the thermometer is on th lid and not actually measuring the meat it's crap, but if it's measuring the same way as the IOT version, then the readout is fine on the lid.

Because you plug it into a thermocouple device that you poke inside the middle of your roast, which is a completely different temperature than the air in the grill. This is an addon Bluetooth thermometer Option for Weber grills - I have a Weber but didn’t get this option.
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