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Re: Joe Rogan got ripped off

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Post by [deleted] »

rz2k wrote: post #77
School-Cotton wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because by far the dominant narrative among urban, educated people is that continuing lockdowns are worth it because they prevent death from COVID-19. Arguments that the lockdowns are doing more harm than good are (wrongly, IMHO) associated with political conservatism, rejection of science, and so on. Thus, evidence of the harm of lockdowns can be considered contrarian, regardless of whether it comes from medical pro…

I have never been in an accident where I was helped by wearing a seatbelt, and preparations for Y2K cost many times more than any of the harm that was caused by Y2K bugs. Considering that I've never experienced malnutrition, I seem to waste a lot of time money and effort on nutrition, too. Ignoring mental health consequences of difficult times is foolish, but this sounds much more like it was a "well, actually" sort…

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Re: Joe Rogan got ripped off

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Post by MisterBastahrd »

BubRoss wrote: post #78
MisterBastahrd wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He typically has no idea what they're talking about and thus lobs softball after softball at them, even when he pretends to disagree for devil's advocate sake. Most of his bigger named guests have carved out echo chambers for themselves, and Rogan lends them credibility.

You realize he doesn't have people on to grill them right? He has done well over a thousand shows with hundreds of different people. When you say 'most of his guests' are you talking about John Carmack, Tony Hawk and Rhonda Patrick or are you talking about the one time he had the guy who started the 'proud boys' on? I think a lot of people take this all or nothing stance on one bad guest out of recreational outrage w…

Imagine believing that McInnes is the only low grade idiot to appear on that show.

Re: Joe Rogan got ripped off

#93

Post by seesawtron »

I don't really care if this move is economically less profitable to Joe Rogan and don't understand why this author does either. Anyways, I have been a long term fan of JRE. In the inital phase of lockdown, Joe was pro-lockdown but in the past weeks (shrugging and not commenting at the mention of Elon Musk's tweets in Tim Poole's episode), he's switched to anti-lockdown which started around the Elon Musk episode. The episodes after that have received a lot of criticisim as well.

Now I force myself to see all his episodes with utmost skepticism and doing that I can neither enjoy nor tolerate them anymore. And now with this move to Spotify, I will finally have a reason to quit, sadly. It was great while it lasted though.

Re: Joe Rogan got ripped off

#94

Post by generalpass »

seesawtron wrote: post #93

I don't really care if this move is economically less profitable to Joe Rogan and don't understand why this author does either. Anyways, I have been a long term fan of JRE. In the inital phase of lockdown, Joe was pro-lockdown but in the past weeks (shrugging and not commenting at the mention of Elon Musk's tweets in Tim Poole's episode), he's switched to anti-lockdown which started around the Elon Musk episode. The…

What are your issues with how Rogan justifies his position of being anti-lockdown?

Re: Joe Rogan got ripped off

#95

Post by seesawtron »

wesammikhail wrote: post #28
afrcnc wrote: post #20

Taking into account that all Rogan does these days is defend Trump, I could care less. Let his podcast shrivel away hidden behind a Spotify paywall.

The guy is a Bernie and Tulsi support you dimwit. What in the actual fuck are you on about?

Can't one be all of the above in theory? This isn't a binary world

Re: Joe Rogan got ripped off

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Post by boomboomsubban »

aeternum wrote: post #88
boomboomsubban wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a perfect example of pseudoscience, the article linked is anecdotal interview with two people working in one hospital. It never mentions anything about the rate.

From the article: "We've never seen numbers like this, in such a short period of time," he said. "I mean we've seen a year's worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks."

In one hospital. That alone makes it pseudoscience. A years worth of suicides is likely between 10-40 suicides, which is tragi but doesn't show that the quarentine is causing the problems it says. For example, the rise could be due to medical workers being overtaxed due to the pandemic, or some change in which hospital is receiving patients like this.

Re: Joe Rogan got ripped off

#98

Post by seesawtron »

generalpass wrote: post #94
seesawtron wrote: post #93

I don't really care if this move is economically less profitable to Joe Rogan and don't understand why this author does either. Anyways, I have been a long term fan of JRE. In the inital phase of lockdown, Joe was pro-lockdown but in the past weeks (shrugging and not commenting at the mention of Elon Musk's tweets in Tim Poole's episode), he's switched to anti-lockdown which started around the Elon Musk episode. The…

What are your issues with how Rogan justifies his position of being anti-lockdown?

It's the transition that seems strange to me. They have been ripping on politicians all this time, those who were anti-lockdown in the beginning of the crisis.

Its not just the anti-lockdown comments that turned me off. I can agree to some degree with that. There's more like in the episodes that followed afterwards with Brendan Schaub or fight companion where they are just spouting stupid shit. But I guess you can't always invite the best guests.

Re: Joe Rogan got ripped off

#99

Post by cc81 »

rz2k wrote: post #77
School-Cotton wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because by far the dominant narrative among urban, educated people is that continuing lockdowns are worth it because they prevent death from COVID-19. Arguments that the lockdowns are doing more harm than good are (wrongly, IMHO) associated with political conservatism, rejection of science, and so on. Thus, evidence of the harm of lockdowns can be considered contrarian, regardless of whether it comes from medical pro…

I have never been in an accident where I was helped by wearing a seatbelt, and preparations for Y2K cost many times more than any of the harm that was caused by Y2K bugs. Considering that I've never experienced malnutrition, I seem to waste a lot of time money and effort on nutrition, too. Ignoring mental health consequences of difficult times is foolish, but this sounds much more like it was a "well, actually" sort…

To be honest this is a novel disease that is affecting the world a lot right now and we simply don't know the best way forward.

This is not the flu, it is much worse, but we are generally not enforcing "seat belts" to protect the vulnerable even close to as much.

Re: Joe Rogan got ripped off

#100

Post by shoulderfake »

koiz wrote: post #19
krustyburger wrote: post #17

I have no idea if it’s true, but I’ve heard that a major factor was recent pushback he was getting from YouTube with respect to contrarian coverage of the pandemic. Apparently he wanted to have guests who would provide alternative public health narratives and was told that this was a no-go on YouTube. Much of his audience consumes the show as video on YouTube and Spotify is another major brand that will offer a simil…

>Apparently he wanted to have guests who would provide alternative public health narratives and was told that this was a no-go on YouTube. As it should be. >He is hoping that Spotify will give him more creative freedom Spreading pseudoscience isn't creative, its destructive.

time to take your pills Skippy...
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