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Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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I know many ppl are going to defend "America" here.

But remember who you are defending.

Great power rivalry is bad for corporate profit and amazing for wage laborer, which most of HN is.

If you are an worker in North America, this type of headline should be a moment of celebration.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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post #9

This may be a bit of pro-USA or pro-Western favoritism on my part, but if a company is getting away with illicitly gaining access to trade secrets in order to build a competitive advantage while shielded by its home country (not the best example, but t-mobile v. huawei - I imagine plenty of others are classified), is it in-scope for opposing nations to destabilize the company responsible for doing so?

How about a company leveraging its monopoly on operating systems to illicitly gain an advantage in other markets, say ... webbrowsers?

Should we nuke them?

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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post #9

This may be a bit of pro-USA or pro-Western favoritism on my part, but if a company is getting away with illicitly gaining access to trade secrets in order to build a competitive advantage while shielded by its home country (not the best example, but t-mobile v. huawei - I imagine plenty of others are classified), is it in-scope for opposing nations to destabilize the company responsible for doing so?

How about a company leveraging its monopoly on operating systems to illicitly gain an advantage in other markets, say ... webbrowsers? Should we nuke them?

Well, "nuke" might be the wrong word, but doesn't it depend on the end goal? The EU seems to be taking the "extract wealth" approach, and just as with destabilization, is there anything wrong with that?

I'm not answering the question; I'm asking it. I guess my overarching question in the end is whether or not it should be left up to the free market to resolve an issue that's spawned from an entity operating "outside" of it, either literally (e.g. in China) or figuratively (e.g. antitrust violations).

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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U.S.A, not America, here in Brazil we haven’t any issue with Huawei

This again? I think your point is appropriate when speaking Spanish, Portuguese (EDIT: not Portuguese), etc. However, in common English (no, not just in the US) the word "America" more often refers to the USA. Languages don't use the same or derivative words for many other countries as well.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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post #9

This may be a bit of pro-USA or pro-Western favoritism on my part, but if a company is getting away with illicitly gaining access to trade secrets in order to build a competitive advantage while shielded by its home country (not the best example, but t-mobile v. huawei - I imagine plenty of others are classified), is it in-scope for opposing nations to destabilize the company responsible for doing so?

How about a company leveraging its monopoly on operating systems to illicitly gain an advantage in other markets, say ... webbrowsers? Should we nuke them?

If you are referring to Microsoft, then yes, the US and Europe both prosecuted them and placed restrictions on them.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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I know many ppl are going to defend "America" here. But remember who you are defending. Great power rivalry is bad for corporate profit and amazing for wage laborer, which most of HN is. If you are an worker in North America, this type of headline should be a moment of celebration.

We are defending western civilization. I would rather China to collapse than to see it replace the US of A.

China is actively trying to erase any minorities by replacing them with han chinese. It is an evil, vile country and it needs to fundamentally change before we accept its ambitions.

Re: America is determined to sink Huawei

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post #5

> It announced new rules that target Huawei’s in-house microchips, which power many of the firm’s products. The rules are aimed at the factories that take such designs and turn them into working silicon, such as those owned by TSMC in Taiwan and SMIC in China. Out of curiosity, what's the legal basis for this? Is it just a threat, and if companines like TSMC don't follow it, they'll also be blacklisted from the US ma…

The legal basis is that companies which violate US sanctions are not allowed to operate in the US, or transact business using financial services companies which operate in the US. That applies even if no part of the transaction passes through US territory.
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