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That conversation sounds like Siri thinks you're about to go to sleep and wants to make sure you remember to enable your wake-up alarm.
No, that’s what Siri says when it disables your alarm lol.
Siri, What Time Is It in London?
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#622>If you had a human assistant and asked them “What’s the time in London?” and they honestly thought the best way to answer that question was to give you the time for the nearest London, which happened to be in Ontario or Kentucky, you’d fire that assistant. An obvious sign that you would be a shit employer to work for. OP is probably exaggerating here (at least I hope so), but if you were to fire someone over this wi…
No, really, this is just a tired nitpick. I hear a lot of complaints about Hacker News on other websites, about how the commenters are too nitpicky and "Actually, …", but I usually don't mind or actually appreciate many of those. This particular one really annoys me. Everyone knows that people make mistakes all the time, and clearly you shouldn't fire them for simple ones. But that's not the point that was being made! You just sitting here claiming people are obviously horrible because you saw the word "fire" is just not productive at all.
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#623This example illustrates how difficult AGI is and how far we are from it. We, humans, tend to take advantage of the context to make communication simpler and shorter. Just think about all the implications of this one simple question: what time is it in London? Or e.g. how can I get from London to Dublin? If the person asking the question lives in Ohio, they may actually be talking about London OH (or Dublin OH). Some…
Anyone want to guess where this sign is located? https://imgur.com/XyTJHEc
Re: Siri, What Time Is It in London?
#624A while ago I videoed three particularly silly Siri bugs: • Not knowing Billie Eilish on some devices only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMkZGO5iFKw • A fascinating interpretation of two and a half months: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Giq7bQl-jk0 • Playing the wrong song for no explicable reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yj6rroaXL0 They really need to get a handle on this!
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But the post points out that Siri from other Apple devices gets it right. Apple’s “generic knowledge system” can answer this. It’s only Apple Watch which has trouble. That’s kind of weird. It’s not that Siri is especially bad. It’s that “Siri” is something different depending on how you query it. Other online search systems aren’t like that, and integration and consistency are typically Apple’s forte.
Seems like an easy plausible explanation is mobile devices (like a watch or phone) take your current location into account, while a stationary device (like a HomePod) does not. Look, I'm not arguing it's not a bug, but I'm just really surprised at how software people, who I think should know better, are surprised that such bugs exist, or more importantly that completely eliminating all types of this class of bugs is…
The aspect that's ruffling feathers, I believe, is that it's one of those cases where someone might have reasonably assumed something was built one way 'under the hood', and was confronted with an effect which forced them to see that it was not implemented that way at all. The issue isn't the 'bug'. It's the realization that their mental model was wrong.
Specifically, something has a name ("Siri") which might lead one to believe that everything from that manufacturer using that name refers to the same thing. (Isn't that the point of a name?) Clearly, it's not.
Your hypothesis sounds plausible, so I tested it. I have a Mac laptop, which has the same 'Location Services' that iOS has (AFAIK). I asked Mac Siri what time it is in London, and got a response for the one in England (further away from me). So that doesn't explain it, or at least not all of it.
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I'm with the author here. There's a certain amount of base knowledge that not having is just indicative of general cluelessness. It's like if you asked someone to get you a cup of coffee and they came back with a measuring cup of coffee beans, it's not that you can't educate them that you actually wanted them to grind the beans and filter some water through it. It's that they're going to screw up lots of other stuff…
>You probably wouldn't fire them after the first time, but do you really think someone who makes that mistake won't just be more trouble than help to work with? I've worked with some clueless people. All of which were capable of learning with some instruction and guidance. Had a cameraman once forget to press "record" at the beginning of an event - nearly costing me a client. I was pissed at the ignorance of the mist…
> As an aside, I never ask anyone to make me coffee unless they are a trained barista, and even they make drinks that aren't what I want on occasion.
Actually, I don't even drink coffee! I fail to see how this is relevant to the discussion at all.
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Ironically your best bet to get it fixed is almost certainly to post your real address here as part of this thread.
Or post another address with the same problem, assuming it affects the entire street.
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But if you had not worked at Google at the time, there’s basically zero chance you could’ve got anyone at the company to do anything about it.
My address has been blatantly broken in Google Maps for years now. When you enter it, for some reason it deletes the house number and just looks up the street, which ends up pointing to somewhere about a 10 minute drive away. For example, if my address was "123 Elm Street" it just ignores the "123" and searches for "Elm Street" instead. We have to give special instructions all the time to delivery drivers and other p…
In the end what worked for me was registering as google maps client/customer, reproducing the issue via API, and then reporting it as an API issue. The underlaying data was fixed within a day or two, and I got my emails answered by google engineer within (literally) minutes.
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> Why on earth should someone living in a state specifically ask for the local time in a different location within that same state? Who said they were in that state when asking? People travel.
I find it unlikely that someone in that scenario would ask "What time is it in London?" rather than "What time is it in Ohio?"
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In Greece it's sometimes used. 10:00π.μ. = 10:00 προ μεσημβρίας = 10:00 before noon 10:00μ.μ. = 10:00 μετά μεσημβρίαν = 10:00 after noon
Transliterating this into the Latin alphabet is fun since it gives "p.m." for before noon.
That's what living for so many years in another country does to your native tongue