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Germany shuts down seven reactors‎ because of Fokushima

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Re: Germany shuts down seven reactors‎ because of Fokushima

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This strikes me more as a political stunt by Merkel to rally the conservative base in Germany than anything else. Still, it doesn't surprise me that this is such a hot button issue right now. I've long been a supporter of nuclear power, but the events of the past week have made me start to reconsider a lot of my beliefs about its safety.

If one of the worst earthquakes on record can't break the containment vessel in these old plants, then I think we're actually doing very well.

Re: Germany shuts down seven reactors‎ because of Fokushima

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post #3

Nice to know that there is another country out there that's as irrational as the US. Does Germany have a lot of tsunamis?

This decision is not so much irrational rather than populistic: There are several upcoming elections this year.

IMHO, this is the best explanation for the sudden change of heart of those who decided to prolong the duration of the atomic reactors just a few months ago.

Re: Germany shuts down seven reactors‎ because of Fokushima

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post #9

This strikes me more as a political stunt by Merkel to rally the conservative base in Germany than anything else. Still, it doesn't surprise me that this is such a hot button issue right now. I've long been a supporter of nuclear power, but the events of the past week have made me start to reconsider a lot of my beliefs about its safety.

If one of the worst earthquakes on record can't break the containment vessel in these old plants, then I think we're actually doing very well.

it is not clear at this moment if the containment vessel is damaged or not. the spike in radiation levels that was measured lately does indicate that it is broken.

Edit: If you want to read up on the radiation levels: http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/20110315-red-alert-radiatio...

Re: Germany shuts down seven reactors‎ because of Fokushima

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post #2

I guess a knee-jerk reaction can be expected in a country where nuclear power is currently pretty controversial.

I don't think this is a knee jerk reaction. I think this is a move for short term political gains without regard for the long term societal costs. They had decided to extend the life of the reactors just last year. No new risk inherent to their design has been exposed. No new tsunami or earthquake risk in Germany has been exposed. I agree with the person quote in TFA (despite the fact that his statement may be a poli…

Note that Sigmar Gabriel wants to shut down all nuclear reactors himself.

Re: Germany shuts down seven reactors‎ because of Fokushima

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post #3

Nice to know that there is another country out there that's as irrational as the US. Does Germany have a lot of tsunamis?

No, but earthquakes. And we are so clever to build nuclear plants on places where they are more likely to occur.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BClheim-K%C3%A4rlich_Nucle...

Re: Germany shuts down seven reactors‎ because of Fokushima

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post #9

This strikes me more as a political stunt by Merkel to rally the conservative base in Germany than anything else. Still, it doesn't surprise me that this is such a hot button issue right now. I've long been a supporter of nuclear power, but the events of the past week have made me start to reconsider a lot of my beliefs about its safety.

Which beliefs? That a nuclear power station situated in a major earthquake zone next to the coast could magically survive a 9.0 earthquake and a tsunami?

Right now, we don't know how serious this situation is, it could be that this will end with a small amount of radiation leaked and four reactors that have to be decommissioned. Or it could end with a major environmental disaster. We simply don't know yet.

I'd caution calm and not following in the footsteps of Germany. Let's wait and see. In a few weeks we may be reconsidering nuclear power, or we may be marveling at how well those plants survived what happened to them.

Re: Germany shuts down seven reactors‎ because of Fokushima

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post #2

I guess a knee-jerk reaction can be expected in a country where nuclear power is currently pretty controversial.

It's only a temporary measure anyway, the plants will be inspected and (if everything well) turned on again until 2023 or so.

Personally, I'd feel a lot safer if all nuclear plants were turned off forever. Sure, the chance of something going horribly wrong is low, but if it goes wrong it is a big big mess. Just too horrible to warrant any of the advantages that nuclear power has.

Re: Germany shuts down seven reactors‎ because of Fokushima

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post #9

This strikes me more as a political stunt by Merkel to rally the conservative base in Germany than anything else. Still, it doesn't surprise me that this is such a hot button issue right now. I've long been a supporter of nuclear power, but the events of the past week have made me start to reconsider a lot of my beliefs about its safety.

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Re: Germany shuts down seven reactors‎ because of Fokushima

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post #9

This strikes me more as a political stunt by Merkel to rally the conservative base in Germany than anything else. Still, it doesn't surprise me that this is such a hot button issue right now. I've long been a supporter of nuclear power, but the events of the past week have made me start to reconsider a lot of my beliefs about its safety.

Why? I actually think the events of the past week prove it's safety. Let put it in perspective: a 40 year old nuclear reactor gets hit by a 9 magnitude earthquake, then slammed with 20 ft. tall swell of water, followed by an explosion due to the buildup of hydrogen gas that blows off the roof of the building, and after all that the core was still mostly intact and contained. That seems like an amazingly positive result to me.
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