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YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy

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Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy

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Post by thefounder »

busymom0 wrote: post #437
chrisco255 wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. What else aren't we hearing about that's being arbitrarily censored by YouTube? And can we really trust it as a platform? I'm losing more trust in Google every day. 10 years ago was "don't be evil." Now, they're just, "be only as evil as you can get away with."

The situation is very similar to what's happening with a lot of Android developers. Many incidents where their app gets banned or removed for silly things. One I remember was getting removed because they had the word "windows" in their play store metadata and Google banned it because of having third party platform name. Except the app was using the term "windows" in reference to a house window, not the OS. Emailing p…

At least on Android you can sideload apps...that's not the case on iOS

Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy

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Post by HAPMCEZ »

busymom0 wrote: post #437
chrisco255 wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. What else aren't we hearing about that's being arbitrarily censored by YouTube? And can we really trust it as a platform? I'm losing more trust in Google every day. 10 years ago was "don't be evil." Now, they're just, "be only as evil as you can get away with."

The situation is very similar to what's happening with a lot of Android developers. Many incidents where their app gets banned or removed for silly things. One I remember was getting removed because they had the word "windows" in their play store metadata and Google banned it because of having third party platform name. Except the app was using the term "windows" in reference to a house window, not the OS. Emailing p…

come on everyone, this if not fair. This it just false positive and corporate policy.

we all know that Western liberal democracies are based on the free flow of information, and they never censor not attempt to control information at all, not even via corporations. That would undermine the whole notion of an informed public and democratic process.

The real evil perpetrators are China.

We're not fascists, we never censor. we should focus on the bad ones who actually do.

Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy

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Post by herostratus101 »

ehsankia wrote: post #427

tl;dr: There are millions of videos about COVID-19 being uploaded to Youtube and they have a non-zero false-positive rate. This was accidentally removed and promptly restored upon manual review. Basically nothing to see here.

Yeah, relax guys, we only burn the bad books!

Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy

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Post by gfxgirl »

I tried to add that Japan's test on Favipiravir is showing no efficacy for COVID. It's news all over Japan on May 20th. Wikipedia rejected the edit. Google "Avigan" (the brand name for Favipiravir) in news and it will come up but TPTB at wikipedia decided it was fake news and reverted the edit.

The article used to say "Japan to start trials of Favipiravir for treatment of COVID-19". Changed to "Japan tests showing Favipiravir not effective against COVID-19". Removed.

Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy

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_bxg1 wrote: post #207
acituan wrote: post #51

I don’t agree with the interview contents, nor think professorship alone gives sufficient credibility in the face of a novel pandemic, data of which is in the process of emerging. That said, I don’t want youtube to be in charge of deciding what is credible or not. They don’t have in-house experts on these domains, they don’t have a magic epistemology machine that spits out the “facts”. They are good at writing web se…

And on the other end of the spectrum we have people being indoctrinated into violent conspiracy groups like QAnon, or being prompted to set fire to cell towers, or bringing measles back from the dead, because of YouTube videos. There's a line to be drawn here - and it's a tricky line, to be sure - but "YouTube should be totally neutral and not pull anything" is not a viable answer.

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Post by jaspax »

lordlic wrote: post #491
chrischen wrote: post #238

These types of censorship patterns are identical to that employed by China in intent . The practical consequences are the same as well. In China information censorship is due to the government trying to promote peace and harmony. Aka, the government thinks it knows what’s best for people and forces it on people. Facebook et al also encounter these same problems, where they see people spreading “misinformation.” It’s…

I'm sympathetic to Chinese-style censorship, at least in theory before it degenerates into the state trying to suppress anything it considers embarrassing to itself. "The government thinks it knows what’s best for people" because it does know better than most people. Facebook, as the lowest common denominator for American public discourse, is a cesspool of misinformation, pseudoscience, hate, deceptive advertising, a…

> YouTube is not sending people to prison or calling up your employer to tell them you're a dangerous agitator.

Correct. This function is outsourced to Twitter mobs.

Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy

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Post by busymom0 »

thefounder wrote: post #511
busymom0 wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The situation is very similar to what's happening with a lot of Android developers. Many incidents where their app gets banned or removed for silly things. One I remember was getting removed because they had the word "windows" in their play store metadata and Google banned it because of having third party platform name. Except the app was using the term "windows" in reference to a house window, not the OS. Emailing p…

At least on Android you can sideload apps...that's not the case on iOS

I develop apps for both iOS and Android. There's pros and cons to both. I prefer developing for iOS as there's more money in it plus I enjoy the platform more but if people want more customization, Android is definitely better.

Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy

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Post by busymom0 »

masnao wrote: post #500
ta17711771 wrote: post #430

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> promptly restored upon manual review. Promptly restored upon viral traction of outrage...just like that podcast app was....

one have to wonder, if users are already doing all the work to flag and make noise to restore the false positives, what value the centralizers of information even add? the case for p2p is stronger than ever now that bandwidth is cheaper. downloading a torrent from other users is faster than pressing play on youTube, when you account the time wasted with advertising.

I am with you on the p2p thing. I have been considering developing video streaming with p2p (similar to bitchute but better UI/UX). But despite that, p2p still needs a central server for the non-video elements like static files - images, css, html etc. Can't avoid it 100%

Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy

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Post by busymom0 »

busymom0 wrote: post #420
elliekelly wrote: post #408

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CloudFlare is under no obligation to follow a policy you find logical. If you dislike their business practices or find them problematic you might contact your local elected officials and request regulation. Otherwise you’ll have to wait and see if the magic of the free market changes anything.

All I am pointing out is the hypocrisy and false statements CF and others make. CF's actions are much different from their words. They say they need to allow dangerous terrorists because of free speech but then ban other speech which they don't like. > you might contact your local elected officials and request regulation Voicing my opinion on a public forum is one way to do that.

Why is everyone downvoting comments without even explaining?

Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy

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Post by pwdisswordfish2 »

ta17711771 wrote: post #442
chrisco255 wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. What else aren't we hearing about that's being arbitrarily censored by YouTube? And can we really trust it as a platform? I'm losing more trust in Google every day. 10 years ago was "don't be evil." Now, they're just, "be only as evil as you can get away with."

P E E R T U B E

Google does not have the rights to any of those videos it is censoring? It is like academic publishing. Google is gatekeeper charging a fee (user privacy).

Not sure if anyone has noticed but when logging in to a Gmail account, Google is trying to access a YouTube domain. Not too many weeks ago they announced a change in the YouTube terms of service. Sad to think every video you watch could be used to help online advertisers. Google is not like the public library. The public library does not use the list of every book or other item you borrowed to try to help the ad industry. Of course it is much more than just a list of videos. They probably record data such when you watched, what portions you watched, etc.

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