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Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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The worst thing about Microsoft is that they launch technologies / platforms without much success and then just close them up. I read that "Windows Live Spaces" is closing down, now Zune is closing shop... Imagine you invest time and energy in the Spaces network or a Zune setup, you're out of luck.

Worse, there is no upgrade path.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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post #7

I think this attitude has been the downfall of a lot of developers over the years. You fall in love with the development environment and then you transfer that love to the platform itself. The problem is sometimes great platforms aren't paired with great products. Microsoft is at least two generations behind Google and Apple at this point. Some would argue three generations. I'm a .net developer who loves C# too so I…

I don't think there are generational differences between any of the smartphone competitors right now. We're looking at missing functionality, unpolished app stores and so on.

WP7 should be able to compete with Android and iOS if they fix the bugs and add missing items such as copy-paste and multitasking.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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post #5

TL;DR: A very long cover letter for the guy's job application to the Microsoft Windows Phone team.

And power to him - if only everyone on the WP7 team cared this much. IMO these certainly aren't the words of someone just trolling for a job.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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post #5

TL;DR: A very long cover letter for the guy's job application to the Microsoft Windows Phone team.

Job application? Does anyone willingly sign up for a death march or to preside over the funeral of a dead-end project if they can avoid it?

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Microsoft's an interesting beast. Things that "should" matter to them, like Windows, somehow reach the point of almost falling apart (see Windows Me or Vista). Then, groups that are practically losing money build great things like the Xbox 360 and Kinect. Some products that stumble end up dead, like the Zune, while others are dragged back up to par (see IE9 and Windows 7). This current mess could mean anything from "…

> When was the last time Microsoft did anything like that?

As recently as last year. They claimed to have 30,000 engineers working on cloud services, which is not what I would consider a has-been market.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually you are wrong on a few of those points, for one, I use bluetooth to transfer files to my phone(2.1 device) all the time, but I have seen some android phones where that does work, it seems to be dependent on whether or not the manufacturer has lock that feature down or not. Also you can remove or unlink you google account in the "Accounts & Sync" area of the settings menu.

You could be right about Bluetooth issue being linked to manufacturers. My Android (v2.2) does not allow removing Google account.

My HTC Desire does allow that, which phone do you use?

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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post #18

Is it any better with Android? Here's a list of issues: -- Android resets your phone to factory settings without asking you or even giving a warning if you port a number to it. This deserves a class-action lawsuit. See here: http://androidforums.com/droid-x-support-troubleshooting/131... -- Using the built in email application, sent emails often stuck in the outbox. See here: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/and…

Actually you are wrong on a few of those points, for one, I use bluetooth to transfer files to my phone(2.1 device) all the time, but I have seen some android phones where that does work, it seems to be dependent on whether or not the manufacturer has lock that feature down or not. Also you can remove or unlink you google account in the "Accounts & Sync" area of the settings menu.

Bluetooth profile support can be locked down by manufacturers, my HTC Desire lacks lots of Bluetooth profiles that could/should be supported. Too bad, but that's what happens with Google's Android strategy I guess.

I can add and remove Google accounts whenever I want, in Accounts & Sync. I have two accounts linked, one private and one business, and that works really well in all apps.

AFAIK, the only bug I've been bitten by is that I had to remove a file on the SD Card named "smdl2tmp1.asec" because updates of apps stored on the SD Card stopped working after an update, which of course is unforgivable. And still not fixed. Seems to be on phones from several manufacturers, but only on a few percent if that.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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I am not in any position to give advice to Microsoft, but it seems to me that they are trying to apply the winning strategies they used in one game to all the others. Example: WP7. What is expected: They ship fast and they update fast and agile, they don't have giant compatibility legacy to maintain. What actually happens: WP7 took forever to ship and never got updated. My speculation why it happened: they've got som…

I don't think that's their strategy generally.

Their current development strategy for things like MVC and Silverlight is to pre-release new functionality as an unsupported project, full source and iterate fast. They're quite agile in areas.

WP7 feels like some one has suddenly put the breaks on it.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

#50
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the thing I never understood about Microsoft. When they really focus, and spend more time on producing a product versus marketing a product, the seem to do some great things (SEE: Windows 2000/NT). It seems like MS could really use from some user centric project managers or something to really get them on the course to consistent delivery, because that's what's lacking. Vista was a bust, 7 was a phenom by MS s…

Without making a judgment one way or the other in regards to the people at Microsoft I'd make one point about what you said. The problem with looking at Microsoft through the lens of Windows NT to Windows 7 is that Microsoft consists of completely different people in those two eras. The people who spearheaded windows in the time of Windows NT and Windows 2000 were worth tens of millions of dollars by the time Vista w…

You have a very valid point, however I'm not per se making the argument of a dichotomy between Windows NT and Windows 7. I am however saying that Microsoft CAN, when they narrow down build some great products. And it seems like every time, as soon as they do, they trip up on their own two feet and fall face first on the very next one.
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