Susan Wojcicki has publicly stated over a month ago that the current policy is to remove content that is not in line with WHO's positions.
https://www.businessinsider.com/youtube-will-ban-anything-ag...
YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy
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Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy
#342Earlier quoted context omitted.
> but I do know what Epidemiologist Neil Ferguson from Imperial college created in his flawed modeling - a world wide panic. You don't think the tens of thousands of deaths in Italy, Spain, France, and the US had already caused that panic by the time his model was released?
No, that is not how the timeline went. As to who created the panic - it was Neil, Fauci and their ilk along with the media. The media, instead of reporting that the data shows old and sick people are the ones dying chose to hide that relevant fact and just report the death toll ad nauseam with no context - as a matter of fact they are still doing it.
Yeah. Lets just throw all the elderly and weak and people with pre-existing conditions under the bus and be done with it. Compassion is overrated.
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#343I think that we often get hung up on the what-ifs of censorship while misinformation is doing damage right this second. The problem is that people don't evaluate 2 narratives equally based on the information in them. If that was the case, you would just have to make sure that for every bogus report there is a reliable report, but once misinformation takes hold it takes a lot more than that to dislodge. The analogy I…
IMHO, this is an incredibly authoritarian point of view. It makes the assumption that the content being censored or banned is both wrong and damaging. I am not only referring to this specific case, but the interviewee here is ostensibly someone of expertise being a professor of medicine. That doesn't mean what they say is correct but at the very least they have direct knowledge of the topic. In the grand scheme of th…
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Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy
#344Is it this Karol Sikora? > Promotion of alternative medicine > Sikora and the School of Medicine at Buckingham have in the past been supportive of alternative medicine. For a short time, Buckingham offered a diploma in "integrated medicine" (a relatively recent euphemism for alternative medicine). Sikora was a Foundation Fellow of Prince Charles' now-defunct alternative medicine lobby group The Prince's Foundation fo…
With this reasoning, all food videos showing desserts with high calories and high sugar content should be banned, since obesity is an epidemic that kills and is harmful.
Nudge theory agrees with you, and as such they would maybe not ban them outright, but just like cigarettes packs have a warning stating exactly as you said, high sugar, high fructose foods are a health hazard before the video plays
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#345Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let me be contrary: who shut down millions of businesses and put millions out of work? It wasn't QAnon. It was the state -- and it looks like YouTube is aligned with the pro-shutdown folks who don't want their wisdom questioned. Now I'm a big believer in keeping things shut. I thing prudence is super-important. But QAnon's actions are mainly talk. The state's, however, are different.
Let me be contrary: who shut down millions of businesses and put millions out of work? Well, I'd blame the pandemic itself. Sweden provides an imperfect but interesting what-if scenario for countries wondering what would have happened if they'd imposed little to no lockdown restrictions. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/30/coronavirus-sweden-economy-t... Their economy is still taking a very severe hit despite retail busi…
Unlike most other European countries, Sweden is not increasing its sovereign debt load by 15+% of GDP to keep the citizenry afloat. That’ll feel a lot more important than Covid in 5 years.
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#346Am I the only one bothered by people talking about “censorship” in this context? A private company chose to remove content from its service because it considers that content to be bad, and probably in violation of its terms. Did the government force it to do so? Is somebody preventing the owner of the video from hosting it on their own web site? Censorship is a real thing in the world, and so is crying wolf.
I'd be more willing to have this conversation if Youtube had actual competition.
Isn’t Facebook competition?
But I don’t see why that matters. If I can’t get published in the mainstream media, but I have plenty of options in the alternative media, is that censorship?
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#347Total censorship doesn't happen overnight. The gates slowly close little by little. Let no good catastrophe go to waste. With each, we lose a little freedom and the populace resounds in joy. Not because they want less freedom, no, it's because they think they've triumphed over a common evil: the dissenters. These cycles always include labeling the enemy, and it's usually the ones who disagree or challenge the state.…
>Total censorship doesn't happen overnight. The gates slowly close little by little.
beautifully stated. Or the more common "boiling a frog slowly"
If we do not fight for our freedoms, our children will get used to the reduced freedoms as a 'new normal' and it will only get more repressive
Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy
#348Earlier quoted context omitted.
> QAnon's actions are mainly talk QAnon is an FBI-registered domestic terror organization: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/qanon-... They've been connected to multiple attempted acts of violence. They aren't just talk.
Terror organization who operates freely on reddit?
Name a better location to monitor a terror organizations activity (for investigators). Makes the feds' jobs easy.
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#349These types of censorship patterns are identical to that employed by China in intent . The practical consequences are the same as well. In China information censorship is due to the government trying to promote peace and harmony. Aka, the government thinks it knows what’s best for people and forces it on people. Facebook et al also encounter these same problems, where they see people spreading “misinformation.” It’s…
> These types of censorship patterns are identical to that employed by China in intent. The practical consequences are the same as well. True, if you ignore the fact that China is a government and YouTube is an internet video portal. And that there are sites like HN that can point it out. And that YouTube isn't taking steps to cover up what they've done. But yeah, let's compare the policing of bad information in a pa…
Firstly, I agree with rcoveson; there are a lot of complaints to be made about your second paragraph. Including that "a teenager ... that might die" is emotional misinformation - they almost surely won't.
The difference between governments doing it and YouTube doing it is that people do have the practical choice of leaving YouTube if the situation is deemed intolerable. Up until that point there isn't a practical difference between YouTube and China if they employ the same censorship methods.
> And that YouTube isn't taking steps to cover up what they've done.
The Chinese government isn't exactly subtle; they are promoting peace and harmony through censorship. A lot of people died in the last Chinese revolution & aftermath - they do have a reasonable argument that unstable government will kill people. It is just we know from experience in the west that transparent democracies are more stable because problems tend to get dealt with when they affect large groups of people.
Re: YouTube removes interview with professor of medicine on Covid stats and policy
#350These types of censorship patterns are identical to that employed by China in intent . The practical consequences are the same as well. In China information censorship is due to the government trying to promote peace and harmony. Aka, the government thinks it knows what’s best for people and forces it on people. Facebook et al also encounter these same problems, where they see people spreading “misinformation.” It’s…
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