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Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by joenathan »

alok-g wrote: post #18

Is it any better with Android? Here's a list of issues: -- Android resets your phone to factory settings without asking you or even giving a warning if you port a number to it. This deserves a class-action lawsuit. See here: http://androidforums.com/droid-x-support-troubleshooting/131... -- Using the built in email application, sent emails often stuck in the outbox. See here: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/and…

Actually you are wrong on a few of those points, for one, I use bluetooth to transfer files to my phone(2.1 device) all the time, but I have seen some android phones where that does work, it seems to be dependent on whether or not the manufacturer has lock that feature down or not.

Also you can remove or unlink you google account in the "Accounts & Sync" area of the settings menu.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by xentronium »

I am not in any position to give advice to Microsoft, but it seems to me that they are trying to apply the winning strategies they used in one game to all the others.

Example: WP7.

What is expected: They ship fast and they update fast and agile, they don't have giant compatibility legacy to maintain.

What actually happens: WP7 took forever to ship and never got updated.

My speculation why it happened: they've got some lengthy and fairly bureaucratic process of approving new features, new versions, etc. They apply the same methodic they used with windows to their WP7, like, always maintain backward compatibility, be very reliable (well, you all know what happened) and predictable. They're, like, four years late and they keep wasting time.

Not to mention that WinMo wasn't too great either. I had an iPaq, which was sort of okay, but it didn't rock. It wasn't "cool" in any sense. And they probably vastly underestimate the coolness factor.

My $0.02.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by dasil003 »

lukifer wrote: post #12
Legion wrote: post #4

tl;dr: Guy keeps buying shitty MS mobile products, MS dutifully keeps making shitty mobile products. Very reminiscent of Apple fans in the '90s, buying crap products because they've defined themselves to be on Team Apple.

To be fair: in the 90's, at least Mac fans had the excuse of not wanting to give up existing hardware/software peripherals. That's not really applicable to MS mobiles.

Not to mention the fact that Apple actually needed the rabid fanbase. Every single person could instantly hate Microsoft and they wouldn't be going anywhere for a long long long time.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by alok-g »

joenathan wrote: post #21
alok-g wrote: post #18

Is it any better with Android? Here's a list of issues: -- Android resets your phone to factory settings without asking you or even giving a warning if you port a number to it. This deserves a class-action lawsuit. See here: http://androidforums.com/droid-x-support-troubleshooting/131... -- Using the built in email application, sent emails often stuck in the outbox. See here: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/and…

Actually you are wrong on a few of those points, for one, I use bluetooth to transfer files to my phone(2.1 device) all the time, but I have seen some android phones where that does work, it seems to be dependent on whether or not the manufacturer has lock that feature down or not. Also you can remove or unlink you google account in the "Accounts & Sync" area of the settings menu.

You could be right about Bluetooth issue being linked to manufacturers.

My Android (v2.2) does not allow removing Google account.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by dasil003 »

makecheck wrote: post #3

Microsoft's an interesting beast. Things that "should" matter to them, like Windows, somehow reach the point of almost falling apart (see Windows Me or Vista). Then, groups that are practically losing money build great things like the Xbox 360 and Kinect. Some products that stumble end up dead, like the Zune, while others are dragged back up to par (see IE9 and Windows 7). This current mess could mean anything from "…

This pretty much jibes with the conventional wisdom that Microsoft is a company with deep political entanglements. If something is important, it stands to reason there would be a lot of paralyzing infighting, whereas teams on the periphery could actually do some good work.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by kenjackson »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #20
rodh257 wrote: post #19

I wonder what this experience is like compared to early Android adopters? Was there similar issues, with bugs and then updates not coming for them?

Android has some pretty wacky longstanding bugs, even now. My friend and I both have HTC Incredibles, and whenever I text him I come up as his friend Frank, with Frank's picture. I got a bunch of very confused texts from him before we figured that one out. Now whenever I text him, I have to append (This is Erik).

If you were dating a couple of girls, that could end up with some really embarrassing situations.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by Apocryphon »

rodh257 wrote: post #19

I wonder what this experience is like compared to early Android adopters? Was there similar issues, with bugs and then updates not coming for them?

From the development side, the Android emulator is really wonky, which is annoying at times.

Re: Why I'm Close to Giving Up on Windows Phone 7, as a User and a Developer

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Post by stretchwithme »

Why are you only close to giving up? Is this windows phone thing a significant platform?

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/12/07/microsoft-doesnt-expe...

Mossberg asked: “So.. how long before you’re back into the market… back up to a good marketshare, up there with Android and Apple?”

“I don’t know..”

“Couple months?”

“Longer than that.”

“Couple years?”

“Maybe.”

Isn't it time to stop developing for OS/2?

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