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Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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alexbanks wrote: post #168
PudgePacket wrote: post #147

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Weeks? A startup looking for funding of this amount shouldn't be burning anywhere near that amount (tens of thousands a week!) This should be months, up to a year for 1-2 founder team.

...How? 3 people / 75k = 25k per person. At a reasonable 100k/year earning potential, that means that 75k a year is 3 months of time?

You pay yourself what you need to survive and use the rest to re-invest in the company, extend the runway, do marketing, etc.

You can't walk away from your day job at $BIGCO, start your own company and expect to get paid like you used to, it doesn't work like that (at least at the beginning).

Your pay is having a large % ownership in (what you think will be) a valuable company down the line.

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by alexbanks »

PudgePacket wrote: post #171
alexbanks wrote: post #168

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...How? 3 people / 75k = 25k per person. At a reasonable 100k/year earning potential, that means that 75k a year is 3 months of time?

You pay yourself what you need to survive and use the rest to re-invest in the company, extend the runway, do marketing, etc. You can't walk away from your day job at $BIGCO, start your own company and expect to get paid like you used to, it doesn't work like that (at least at the beginning). Your pay is having a large % ownership in (what you think will be) a valuable company down the line.

It seems kinda wild to suggest a fair deal is making ever so slightly above minimum wage for an already established team, company, product, userbase, no?

My issue, I guess, is not with salary, but moreso the value add. 75k does not seem like enough to A.) Live on, really, B.) Extend runway, really, C.) "Fix the internet", really. I can understand trading in cash for agency, I would absolutely do it. But this doesn't really seem like that either, given that presumably lots of founders would need to either seek further funding or work second jobs.

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by ByteJockey »

afandian wrote: post #148
ByteJockey wrote: post #121

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In it's defense, svelte is actually a word that appears on both of those pages.

One of the big questions about search engines is "what is it trying to do?" The simplest is "search for doc that contaons" . But we're used to "search for document about concept" by now. ISTRC Bing called themselves a "decision engine". I don't know what Google is/trying to be now, but it often thinks it knows my business better than myself, excluding critical words. I don't think there can be a universal answer. The…

Their niche is to search the "classic web".

Atleast the title in firefox says:

> Wiby - Search Engine for the Classic Web

That's also probably why you didn't find any information on the svelte framework.

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by EGreg »

lightninglu10 wrote: post #110
lightninglu10 wrote: post #109

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Hm, I thought we got that fixed up. Put the school you went to or the last company you worked at, if it still exists when you apply!

Or just put Qbix

Thanks, Patrick. That worked!

This is exciting, I honestly feel our company was made for this, or perhaps vice versa. Either way, Mozilla's accelerator is the best fit for what we are doing :)

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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alexbanks wrote: post #172
PudgePacket wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You pay yourself what you need to survive and use the rest to re-invest in the company, extend the runway, do marketing, etc. You can't walk away from your day job at $BIGCO, start your own company and expect to get paid like you used to, it doesn't work like that (at least at the beginning). Your pay is having a large % ownership in (what you think will be) a valuable company down the line.

It seems kinda wild to suggest a fair deal is making ever so slightly above minimum wage for an already established team, company, product, userbase, no? My issue, I guess, is not with salary, but moreso the value add. 75k does not seem like enough to A.) Live on, really, B.) Extend runway, really, C.) "Fix the internet", really. I can understand trading in cash for agency, I would absolutely do it. But this doesn't…

I don't think you'd go for this if you're an already established company. 75k is for 1-2 people who have probably launched less than 6 months ago or are launching with that money.

It's also not just the money. It's credibility by being invested in mozilla (and an investor who is invested in you having more successful funding rounds), it's the marketing and hype that come with it, it's the opportunities to employ people, it's the connections that come from being acquainted with investors and a tech giant, etc.

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by kgwxd »

zem wrote: post #92
kgwxd wrote: post #79

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I think if browsers didn't allow JS calls to other domains without a user prompt it would solve almost all the woes ads/trackers bring. I'm willing to give up whatever optimizations the current silent behavior allows. I'm sure Google would do everything to stop that from ever being standard though.

this is unfortunately relatively easy to work around. if you want ad revenue you agree to host a third party's script on your own site, with a cron job to pull updates. then you collect tracking data, send it to your own backend, and upload it from there to google/facebook/whoever.

That requires the site owner and the tracking network to build a trust relationship, which is how it should be. I don't want my machine to be an intermediary.

Re: Mozilla goes incubator with ‘Fix The Internet’ startup early-stage investments

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Post by freediver »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #85
chris_f wrote: post #47

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I launched a new search engine a few months ago and have been looking at several alternative ways to fund it, but none of them seem to be a viable path. The best balance of privacy and user experience seems to be display ads related to search term context that don't do any tracking (like billboards in the real world). But even that isn't an easy proposition and will need a custom network built to generate those type…

I would love a search engine that had a -ecommerce option. Sometimes I want to buy shocks for a f150, sometimes I want to see how to replace it. What i don't want is to wade through all the ecom sites.

Can you point to a site that has f150 shocks replacement information that it not commercial in nature? (no product sales/ads/newsletters/affiliate links) I am very curious and have a hard time finding one.
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