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The UK’s public health response to Covid-19

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Re: The UK’s public health response to Covid-19

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Yet we still have the worst death rate in Europe. Why was Germany so much better off than us.

This is my theory (I of course welcome feedback!): The UK has had a health crisis for 20+ years, and that is obesity / poor-diet / little-exercise. We are one (it not most?) obese country in Europe, and we are seeing people with diabetes and heart-conditions to be people at most risk of COVID-19. It will take a generation to put this right - and my hope is that people in the UK will realise they need to sort their he…

Yes, good point. Must be contributory.

Re: The UK’s public health response to Covid-19

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Yet we still have the worst death rate in Europe. Why was Germany so much better off than us.

Isn't the answer at the moment "we don't know" - I'm no fan of the current government but I don't think it helps blaming them before someone has analysed the relevant facts.

Yes, I think this is the correct answer. There are so many factors. And absolutely not a fan of the current government, but I reccognise that they are trying to work in very very difficult circumstance.

Re: The UK’s public health response to Covid-19

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Yet we still have the worst death rate in Europe. Why was Germany so much better off than us.

This is my theory (I of course welcome feedback!): The UK has had a health crisis for 20+ years, and that is obesity / poor-diet / little-exercise. We are one (it not most?) obese country in Europe, and we are seeing people with diabetes and heart-conditions to be people at most risk of COVID-19. It will take a generation to put this right - and my hope is that people in the UK will realise they need to sort their he…

I don't think it will make any difference to that, obesity isn't a problem of lack of education. People already know that they should eat more vegetables and less pizza.

Re: The UK’s public health response to Covid-19

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Yet we still have the worst death rate in Europe. Why was Germany so much better off than us.

Probably it's closely connected to hygiene practices in the care-homes.

The care sector has been under extreme financial pressure since the financial crisis. It's not surprising they have struggled.

Re: The UK’s public health response to Covid-19

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Nope, in many repects it's been pretty good. The respects that it has been very poor at was: * Being complacent about the country's testing capacity * stopping testing outside of hospitals once the containment phase was deemed over * PPE logistics. (tough global problem) * Support for care-homes. * Westminster's lack of care when it comes to coordinating the loosening of lock-down with the devolved countries It was a…

> but given that the number of acute beds in the NHS wasn't overwhelmed, that's arguable. The number of acute beds in the NHS was overwhelmed! They were converting operating theatres into ITUs; they dropped the nurse to patient ratios from 1:1 to 1:6; they cancelled elective surgeries to cope with the surge. The other thing they did is to tell care and nursing homes that elderly people with covid would not be admitte…

For some mesures of 'overwhelmed'. Obviously, the standard number of ITU beds wasn't going to be able to accomodate the pandemic, so yes they converted other facilities into ITU beds. The fact is that we didn't run out of these ITU beds and we easily could have.
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